JP all job Garuda Time Attack Video

Reading this thread made a random thought come to me...

With Content Finder, if it works similarly to WoW, we would queue up as a role: Tank, Healer, DPS. If a PLD can queue as tank, DRG/MNK as DPS, etc...Do you all think people would actually drop party and re-queue until they get the setup they want?

It wouldn't be in their control, so maybe it will sort of force people to play all kinds of different party setups.

edit - Lockout debuff for "traitors" who abandon the team, yes that will help... *evil laugh*

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

How are they killing the plumes? I can't tell really in the video..

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Standard stuff. Plumage is used, WAR Steel Cyclones right away, BRDs pick them off. The DRG assists with the double spawn before Astral Flow using Ring of Talons.

Most parties are trying to skip or reduce the length of phase 2 (and hell, phase 3...) by committing as much DPS on Garuda during that part. These guys didn't bother doing that because they clearly survived phase 2 very well.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

so others are doing it in 3 mins, are you saying the people doing it in 3 minutes are not getting more drops?

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Ppl aren't doing it because of speed, they are doing it because they can't do it otherwise. What you are describing is an exploit not a tactic, an exploit which will be *patched* and then no one is doing it in 3 mins. There is no excuse for cheating, faster weapon drops or not. If it was a legit tactic you'd have a point, but its not legit at all. That being said, the reality of the situation is ppl can't beat Garuda...so they cheat to do it. It has nothing to do with saving 6 mins.

Thank you for posting this Leo!! ^_^

Someone mentioned wanting to see this from the PLD point of view.. I would also like to see that. And I'm glad to see PLD getting the tank love in this vid. (^_^)b

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Originally Posted by Wincy

Reading this thread made a random thought come to me...

With Content Finder, if it works similarly to WoW, we would queue up as a role: Tank, Healer, DPS. If a PLD can queue as tank, DRG/MNK as DPS, etc...Do you all think people would actually drop party and re-queue until they get the setup they want?

It wouldn't be in their control, so maybe it will sort of force people to play all kinds of different party setups.

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A good number of people used to do that if the heroic instance was Heroic Halls of Reflection and we had a warrior tank. Reason being that HoR required CC and use of LoS to clear the waves of undead before the first two bosses, whereas a Paladin or Death Knight tank had plenty of AoE to make it not needed. With proper coaxing I used to be able to get people to stay, but yeah.

Ideally, the content should be designed so that the average person would not throw a fit if your dungeon group turns out to be PLD, RNG, PUP, WHM for a four-man run. Which should also be able to clear the content with the same efficiency as WAR, BLM, RDM, WHM, which should perform similarly to PLD, SAM, THF, BLU (BLU being the healer in this comp) and so on.

I'm hoping they reuse the pillar mechanic if they decide to bring in Shiva before 2.0. Then I can make the parallel with Sapphiron/Sindragosa. =P

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Lockout debuff for "traitors" who abandon the team, yes that will help... *evil laugh*

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Yes, content finder definitely needs to have this.

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Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna

Ppl aren't doing it because of speed, they are doing it because they can't do it otherwise. What you are describing is an exploit not a tactic, an exploit which will be *patched* and then no one is doing it in 3 mins. There is no excuse for cheating, faster weapon drops or not. If it was a legit tactic you'd have a point, but its not legit at all. That being said, the reality of the situation is ppl can't beat Garuda...so they cheat to do it. It has nothing to do with saving 6 mins.

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i never said they were doing it for speed, i said they were getting more drops because they were doing it faster, was it you intention to put words in my mouth or does that just happen?

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Originally Posted by Amrita

Thank you for posting this Leo!! ^_^

Someone mentioned wanting to see this from the PLD point of view.. I would also like to see that. And I'm glad to see PLD getting the tank love in this vid. (^_^)b

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Maybe I'll convince my LS to let me tank it as Paladin. Probably won't happen till the buffs in 1.22b though...

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

i never said they were doing it for speed, i said they were getting more drops because they were doing it faster, was it you intention to put words in my mouth or does that just happen?

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Well, rushing for drops is one of the reason content last so little

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Originally Posted by Wincy

With Content Finder, if it works similarly to WoW, we would queue up as a role: Tank, Healer, DPS. If a PLD can queue as tank, DRG/MNK as DPS, etc...Do you all think people would actually drop party and re-queue until they get the setup they want?

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Does it matter? I find it highly improbable that a group assembled by a content finder would ever beat Garuda regardless of setup.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

i never said they were doing it for speed, i said they were getting more drops because they were doing it faster, was it you intention to put words in my mouth or does that just happen?

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Its just what you implied when you started arguing about speed. If they get more drops by doing it faster, than presumably you are saying they are running a setup to get more drops by doing it faster. Otherwise, why even bring it into the discussion?