Forced to Raid?

no need to be a raider to do FF14 normal and alliance raid, see them as big dungeon with more people in your team.

The bar is really low in term of difficulty.

Correction :
Play to raid, forced to wipe.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

This is something I've noticed a lot of players aren't always ready to learn, that the game teaches via killing you and dying and full raid wipes aren't bad. They're learning moments.

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this is not souls style game /s

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Originally Posted by KitKatnip

The anxiety of having to complete all these raids is just mentally exhausting.

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It's just a 24 man...

The topic's somewhat old now but... I agree with many others. The CT "raids" are not really raids anymore; nor are the void ark or even the ivalice ones. The mechanics are pretty braindead and simply require you to do little more than look at the bosses' tells. Honestly holminster switch is a harder dungeon than most those raids and that's more or less immediately after the ivalice ones.
The only exception I'll give is the math one since, well. A lot of people don't do good at doing math on the spot... as simple as the math is.

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Originally Posted by Denji

The topic's somewhat old now but... I agree with many others. The CT "raids" are not really raids anymore; nor are the void ark or even the ivalice ones. The mechanics are pretty braindead and simply require you to do little more than look at the bosses' tells. Honestly holminster switch is a harder dungeon than most those raids and that's more or less immediately after the ivalice ones.
The only exception I'll give is the math one since, well. A lot of people don't do good at doing math on the spot... as simple as the math is.

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Man i wish i got the same Dun Scaith experience as it seems you do, because it never go well.
So much that there's always a couple of people leaving when the raid start.

Same for Orbonne Monastery, always a lot of people dying and sometimes quitting.
What you consider simple really isn't for some people.

Personally i like having content like this, because it's funnier to have to pay attention, but i wouldn't say that the void ark or ivalice content aren't raids. Not all of it at least.

The only REQUIRED raids for MSQ are the Crystal Tower(CT) Alliance raids. But...they're are only raids in name only. They are so easy to steamroll because level sync, by itself, doesn't hammer our stats down enough to prevent the raids from being steamrolled so easily when the majority of the dpses have such game-breaking-good endgame equipment. If you're feeling nervous about them you can just watch a guide to be aware of what will one-shot you. It's just a few things. Like, King Behemoth's meteor if you don't hide behind boulders, Amon's Curtain Call if you don't hide behind a frozen player, etc.

MSQ Trials and Normal Raids are basically the same thing. The only real difference is MSQ trials are from MSQ missions and Normal Raids are the side content with separate stories. They're both fancy 8-player boss fights.

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Originally Posted by FireMage

It's just a 24 man...

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A lot of players have social anxiety. Triggers can be different for each though. Some will be more uncomfortable in a 24 man surrounded by lots of other player but okay in a light party where they're only dealing with 3 others. Others will be the opposite and feel safer in the 24 man as a random face lost in the crowd compared to being in the light party where they might feel that there's more attention paid directly to them and their actions.

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Originally Posted by BelgarathMTH

I'm with you, @Shironeko_Narunya. I just did the Crystal Tower series and died like 10 times because I had no idea what was going on the whole time. My screen looked like some crazy abstract painting, with people running everywhere like an agitated hornet's nest, and that was with effects set to "limited". I didn't have a clue where to go or what to do, so I just kept trying to keep moving out of anything on the floor and throwing out heals as I could. If I stood still anywhere more than 3 seconds I died. Several times I died when I didn't appear to be standing in anything.

I don't understand the people calling it "easy". I define "easy" as "nobody dies unless they stand in orange."

I was playing White Mage, and I had my FC guild leader co-healing with me in a group. She made it a priority to rez me all those times I died.

This is my second attempt to get into FFXIV, and as before, I loved it up until these required "raids". It's such a horrible experience for me I quit before. If I hadn't been with my FC leader being nice and rezz'ing me, I would have quit now.

I take some comfort in people saying there will be no more of this awfulness required to progress my story experience.

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Go into your settings and turn off other players' skill effects. This will make things much easier to see.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

A lot of players have social anxiety. Triggers can be different for each though. Some will be more uncomfortable in a 24 man surrounded by lots of other player but okay in a light party where they're only dealing with 3 others. Others will be the opposite and feel safer in the 24 man as a random face lost in the crowd compared to being in the light party where they might feel that there's more attention paid directly to them and their actions.

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Yeah, it all depends on the individual. Personally, I have pretty bad social anxiety in real life. But I am able to put that aside most days to do group content in the games I play. How I handle it, however, may not be how others do.