How to Build a PLD, needing tips plz.

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

I come from 5 years of WOW where gear/stats and gear score is everything. They can never de-emphasize focus on min/maxing stats because that's what the game is all about. Better gear with better stats = stronger character that performs better. The battle system does not leave much room for skill, it's all about stats.

I played the Tera beta where the battle system plays more like an action game then an RPG and with that kind of system yes Skills is what matters, then gear comes 2nd. XIV is built like XI and WOW where the better gear you have the better you are.

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I thought i knew were you were going with this until i got to the end, the "better gear you have the better you are", really? Maybe the better off you are, but gear in ff14 is 2nd to skills. Id rather have people in my group wearing all af that know how to play then well geared screw ups.

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Originally Posted by Taggerung5

You're doing it wrong.

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please explain, I have been tanking on glad/pld for a long time now, have been testing every set up that comes up, and vit/def stacking is by far more efficient in staying alive...

I didn't say that it was inefficient in staying alive, just that it should all be = not >. cuz what use is a billion def and HP if you can't hold hate? (hence the = for enmity)
all very important.

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Originally Posted by Absintheminded

Speaking of "required" skills from other jobs, are there any others? For instance someone told me the LNC ability Invigorate was a must. I've picked up Cure and Protect from CNJ as well and was told I should level it up to 26(?) for Stoneskin.

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Regarding required skills from other jobs, what are the limitations associated with this? How many classes can you pull skills from? Can certain skills only be acquired up to a certain level, like FFXI main job/sub job etc? New to XIV but not new to the online FF adventure. Trying to get a feel for PLD before I really commit to this.

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Originally Posted by Drexel_Mactavish

Regarding required skills from other jobs, what are the limitations associated with this? How many classes can you pull skills from? Can certain skills only be acquired up to a certain level, like FFXI main job/sub job etc? New to XIV but not new to the online FF adventure. Trying to get a feel for PLD before I really commit to this.

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PLD can only use 5 skills from conjurer and marauder classes with the exception of class specific skills, however GLD can use 10 skills from any class (the same exception applys). There is no cut off to what level skills you can use cross class are, i.e. archer has a lv 42 skill called chameleon that can be used cross class.

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Originally Posted by DomonKasshu

PLD can only use 5 skills from conjurer and marauder classes with the exception of class specific skills, however GLD can use 10 skills from any class (the same exception applys). There is no cut off to what level skills you can use cross class are, i.e. archer has a lv 42 skill called chameleon that can be used cross class.

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I appreciate you passing that info along. Makes a lot more sense now. I would ask what you think the top five skills would be but I assume that a lot of skills will be situational?

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Originally Posted by Drexel_Mactavish

I appreciate you passing that info along. Makes a lot more sense now. I would ask what you think the top five skills would be but I assume that a lot of skills will be situational?

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It's mostly situational, most will recommend you get Cure, Raise, Stoneskin, and Sacred Prism from Conjurer. For marauder you will want bloodbath and Provoke. You will definitely want Cure and provoke. Sacred prism turns Cure and stoneskin into AoE which can be nice for a hate spike and protecting party members. What you use is up to you but I'm sure you'll find them all useful.

Has anyone even tried maxing out MND at 350 and STR at 310?
These are the main modifiers for paladin, it's really hard to get out of the thought process of a meat shield needing something other than VIT/DEX for HP/mitigation/shield block but has it even been tried?

Seriously, what if phalenex did 750 damage to ifrit instead of 25? Scale that with other skills / weapon skills.

Enmity would be insane if it worked. Of course it's a huge investment into double and triple melds, +1 rings, and all around phat loot, so of course I would want someone to tell me if theyve tried and failed.

Thanks

pretty sure its STR:350 MND:310 (guesstimates) for garuda (and a bit less for ifrit/moogle like 335STR, 300MND)

here's the PLD section from a Materia guide I made on my LS forums. I've listed these from best to worst

Weapon

Touch of Rage
MND
STR

Shield

Bloodthirst
Lifethirst
Bloodwall

Head

MND
Manaflight (Magic Evasion)

Body

Bloodthirst
VIT* (currently broken)

Hands

Bloodthirst
STR

Waist

Touch of Rage
Bloodthirst

Legs

Bloodthirst
Lifethirst
Manathirst

Feet

Manaflight
Bloodflight
Bloodthirst