Can we get normal manly males ?

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Final Fantasy has been about pretty people from the beginning, if you go by the official art. The game graphics only started catching up to it in 8, though.

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Meanwhile Golbez being a muscular man-chad, same with jecht and auron.

Males in this game look kind of off, but it's not just that, it's the armor design too. Au ra males, for example, are completely ruined by their hips. Well, that and the gigantic horns on the side of their face, a lot of clipping (helmets are more important on males IMO). Highlanders look like cavemen - with no eyebrows. Roe just look plain weird, and short legs. I have to agree with someone else here on hrothgar, they don't really look 'cool', or 'feral' to me. Miqo'te are miqo'te, and viera are viera. Midlanders are the most 'normal' looking option, but end up being too short, and their customization leaves a lot to be desired. Midlanders probably need a good customization overhaul.

This game could use some more masculine (western) hairstyles for men, and that stubble would go a long way in making them look cooler as well.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Males in this game look kind of off, but it's not just that, it's the armor design too. Au ra males, for example, are completely ruined by their hips. Well, that and the gigantic horns on the side of their face, a lot of clipping (helmets are more important on males IMO). Highlanders look like cavemen - with no eyebrows. Roe just look plain weird, and short legs. I have to agree with someone else here on hrothgar, they don't really look 'cool', or 'feral' to me. Miqo'te are miqo'te, and viera are viera. Midlanders are the most 'normal' looking option, but end up being too short, and their customization leaves a lot to be desired. Midlanders probably need a good customization overhaul.

This game could use some more masculine (western) hairstyles for men, and that stubble would go a long way in making them look cooler as well.

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Probably because a lot of glams too are more pertaining to female characters. It seems like they take much more time on female gear than they do the males, it’s very telling on certain glams. Usually healer and caster gear. It makes them look really weird and disjointed on males and it doesn’t help that they don’t seem to adjust gear based on actual racial body types. Probably more muh engine problems.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Final Fantasy has been about pretty people from the beginning, if you go by the official art. The game graphics only started catching up to it in 8, though.

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“It’s always been this way, and it doesn’t need to change” is the Prime symptom of the Final Fantasy disease, and that mindset is what is responsible for 1.0.

I’d rather see this game constantly adapt and improve, rather than get tired and dull from doing things because “that’s just how Final Fantasy is”

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Originally Posted by Nothv13

I just like the Au Ra because their scales make better beards than the beard option of the midlander and highlander.

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I can see how that would work! My perspective isn't from creating male characters, just what I've thought of the ones my husband has had and my general impression, so I'm pretty neutral about beards. I mean, people want more so it would be a good if that happened but I only play females myself.

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Originally Posted by van_arn

“It’s always been this way, and it doesn’t need to change” is the Prime symptom of the Final Fantasy disease, and that mindset is what is responsible for 1.0.

I’d rather see this game constantly adapt and improve, rather than get tired and full from doing things because “that’s just how Final Fantasy is”

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Never said it couldn't change, just that expecting it to not be what it's always been to date is odd. I mean, I don't expect a new McDonalds to suddenly be real food when every other McDonalds has been...well, McDonalds.

90% of this can be realized with the addition of more combination faces for Highlander males, to include options for eyebrows for all existing & proposed combinations.

No need for extensive reworks, just reallocation of in game assets. I'm talking about reusing Roegadyn, Mi' Qote, ect... facial options added to existing/new faces... Along with the options for eyebrows.

More than once, Yoshi P has stated he didn't know how popular certain features or request were from western players. We need this expressed to him, correctly & concisely.

I'm pretty manly.

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Originally Posted by Swimcito

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQbaMRNFn1G/

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He really has a face that would make some wow players happy lol

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Originally Posted by van_arn

“It’s always been this way, and it doesn’t need to change” is the Prime symptom of the Final Fantasy disease, and that mindset is what is responsible for 1.0.

I’d rather see this game constantly adapt and improve, rather than get tired and full from doing things because “that’s just how Final Fantasy is”

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To be fair, the statement that you're responding to isn't even necessarily true in the first place. Final Fantasy games have had plenty of attractive men that are classically handsome rather than 'pretty'. Jecht, Snow, Gladio, Golbez and many others.

Given that FFXIV is an MMO with multiple playable races, there's even less of an excuse for limitations. It's been a common request for years though - and mysteriously it's often people playing and posting on female characters who seek to downplay the demand and likelihood of male characters getting some attention for a change.

Strange, that.

It's something I've noticed over the years as someone who has repeatedly requested more customisation, glamour and hairstyles made with male characters in mind first and foremost.