Players should be allowed to smoke in game. Show your support!

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Originally Posted by Edax

I think that might just provoke another internet argument.

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True lol we do got enough of that going on right now due to certain people who shall not be named

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Originally Posted by Edax

With NPCs being able to smoke, isn't it time to give the players that ability as well? With tobacco products already being in the game, it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to expand on that a little. In the story, we live in an age of poverty, greed, violence... destruction. Indeed Shadowbringers is about genocide itself, so why should we fear a little virtual tobacco when the stakes are so high? This being a video game, it would purely be a safe aesthetic choice should the player wish to choose to partake in it.

As many players have put it, the true endgame is glam, and smoking can be an extension of that.

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I'd love an emote that allow the player character to pull out a pipe and blow bubbles (instead of smoke). I think it's a good compromise between smoking/anti-smoking emote crowds.

How about no support for this. I didn't even care for it when I saw an NPC doing it.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

only if im allowed to be asthmatic and lose hp walking near smoking characters

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Asthmatic WoL says, "TIME OUT! Excuse me Bad Guys, I am running out of air. Gotta get pumped." Then proceeds to whip out a Magitek Inhaler and down those sweet corticosteroids.

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

Asthmatic WoL says, "TIME OUT! Excuse me Bad Guys, I am running out of air. Gotta get pumped." Then proceeds to whip out a Magitek Inhaler and down those sweet corticosteroids.

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I mean isn't that basically what the out of breath emote is for? To rp that you're not really out of shape, but that you have something else responsible for why you need to catch your breath?

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Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch

On the one hand, I think that'd be pretty cool for an emote. I could definitely see my character smoking to try and cope with some of the crap we have to go through at times.

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a) how is smoking "cool" in any way? I just pity the people willingly or unwillingly accepting dependencies and addictions.
b) how the hell does smoking (or drinking for that matter) help you cope with anything? How does putting another layer of problems and health issues on top of all the crap you experienced provide solace or refuge?

b) is not just about this situation, it irks me in nearly every movie too.
Whenever the main character has some emotional trouble, what does he do first? get some alcoholic beverage.
It's so idiotic.

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

Asthmatic WoL says, "TIME OUT! Excuse me Bad Guys, I am running out of air. Gotta get pumped." Then proceeds to whip out a Magitek Inhaler and down those sweet corticosteroids.

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I can see it now: a totally dumbfounded raidboss, grabbing a copy of the "Law of inclusion" in order to figure out whether it would be okay to hit a WoL with disabilities. :D

Reading certain stuff in this topic that comes from people defending the freedom to do whatever... until is something they don't personally approve is priceless. By the twelve, I love internet.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

a) how is smoking "cool" in any way? I just pity the people willingly or unwillingly accepting dependencies and addictions.
b) how the hell does smoking (or drinking for that matter) help you cope with anything? How does putting another layer of problems and health issues on top of all the crap you experienced provide solace or refuge?

b) is not just about this situation, it irks me in nearly every movie too.
Whenever the main character has some emotional trouble, what does he do first? get some alcoholic beverage.
It's so idiotic.



I can see it now: a totally dumbfounded raidboss, grabbing a copy of the "Law of inclusion" in order to figure out whether it would be okay to hit a WoL with disabilities. :D

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Kinda judgemental here.
You have no idea what's going on in a person's life.
For some folks, it is refuge, even if it "adds on" to other troubles.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

b) how the hell does smoking (or drinking for that matter) help you cope with anything? How does putting another layer of problems and health issues on top of all the crap you experienced provide solace or refuge?

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Some people on a hard day eat ice cream to cope. You could make the same judgement statements against ice cream but for most people, they want their creature comforts in times of stress. Making no attempt to counter high levels of stress can be extremely unhealthy in the short term.

Drinking, killing, actual genocide and implied rape exists in this game but a smoking emote is where y'all draw the line? I don't even smoke and I think that's silly lmao