Recent Developments of TOS Actions Taken

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

On the side note this opens a really nasty doors for potential future abusements.
Someone could take any video you have recorded and then edit it by adding a bunch of offensive stuff pretending to be you and of your doings. People who do not see anything wrong in SE banning basing on third party evidence should rethink supporting se doing this kind of stuff.
You could take someone else video record yourself doing something crazy and vet someone banned. It is really hard to prove if such video is legit or not.

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3rd party software use is against the ToS. SE usually doesn't press the issue though. They WILL press the issue if you dps shame someone in a public forum. Is that hard to understand? No. It isn't.

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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

Yeah, but has someone ever been banned for saying something on twitch regarding FFXIV community?
We live at times where anyone can get offended by anything. Even if you sit in the corner of your room, there will be someone who will be offended by that x) Thus people can find twitch stuff offensive even if it wasn't offensive in the first place.
As I said, I did not see the clip and I can't tell what was there, my point is that a player got banned by saying something outside the game and this is bringing the question if next time you will get banned by saying something about another person in a public discord.

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The streamer put ACT up dead center on the screen with a crowd of people below. The crowd was booing ACT while he bashed the player. He deserved it.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

The streamer put ACT up dead center on the screen with a crowd of people below. The crowd was booing ACT while he bashed the player. He deserved it.

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He wasn't banned for using ACT. Go chill dude.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

3rd party software use is against the ToS. SE usually doesn't press the issue though. They WILL press the issue if you dps shame someone in a public forum. Is that hard to understand? No. It isn't.

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You could take someone else video of a dungeon run, put on it overlay parse-like fake everything, then stream this video and record yourself in stream shouting out curses left and right. You couls get someone banned like that.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Not going to comment on the rest of your post, but this is particularly bad on SE’s part to do (really, this extends to any company with terms of service).

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How? Are they going to lose subs as a result?

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

They have been repeatedly condemned on various platforms by a multitude of individuals in the past for their inconsistency with rule enforcement and punishment in this game (be it in-game enforcement or enforcement on official platforms such as these forums).

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How many players have canceled their sub because SE does not enforce their ToS? The argument could be made they get more subs from allowing players to use bots and sell content for money.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Continuing to build their moderation on this cherry-picking mentality by now taking into account third-party evidence only when it’s suddenly convenient to do so—or only when they want to—is only going to be detrimental to them.

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Only if they were to go after parsing, which they won't given how many use it and the current rules around it.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

While this may be their playground, arbitrary and/or inconsistent rule enforcement is never met with positive reactions from people in the playground.

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Doesn't mean anything if they stay subbed.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

And it honestly should not be a mentality anyone enforces. I’d rather see people advocating for fairer and more consistent moderation as opposed to supporting this. Again, this goes for any company; not just SE.

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They should start banning for use of hunt radar, triggers, visual mods that provide combat advantages, automated waymark placement and account piloting? What about uploading logs? You can't argue it falls into what's allowed regarding parsing. That's a lot of people to ban.

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

On the side note this opens a really nasty doors for potential future abusements.

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How are trolls going to tie it to the owner's official streaming account?

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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

He wasn't banned for using ACT. Go chill dude.

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He most certainly was banned for using ACT while publicly shaming someone using that as "proof".

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

You could take someone else video of a dungeon run, put on it overlay parse-like fake everything, then stream this video and record yourself in stream shouting out curses left and right. You couls get someone banned like that.

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Mountain out of a mole hill.

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

You could take someone else video of a dungeon run, put on it overlay parse-like fake everything, then stream this video and record yourself in stream shouting out curses left and right. You couls get someone banned like that.

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it was his own stream lol, why you want to protect a harasser so badly?

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Originally Posted by Legewiel

it was his own stream lol, why you want to protect a harasser so badly?

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I think that this is less about the person who obviously harassed and more about what this means for everyone and SE's modus operandi in general.

So, I can call someone a poopy head on a stream, haphazardly talk some crap. Like 'Damn, this guy DPS is so bad' - as people are want to do. And just get banned for it now if someone takes offence and reports it?

Can't wait for everyone to stream silently because any outburst can be reported and slapped.

Where's the line?