Perma shelved my DRK: No role, no idenity, no lore, no worthwhile skills, no fun

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Originally Posted by Shucky

You never had to choose.

Everything that was enhanced by Dark Arts was good enough that you would never wanted the option without Dark Arts. It was never a hard choice. What are you talking about?

I guess you also like having very inconsistent damage then.

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you have a lot of aplications with DA, granted less in SB but still much more that now, depending of the situation DA have diferent priorities, for example in single target you use it on carve and spit for the damage but in aoes you use CaS to recover mp bcs is more effective and you choose on what GCD you use DA to addapt better you mitigation, the exageration of DA on every GCD was a lie DRK wasn't that busy so you always have a room to coordinate and make everything flow so nice. on aoe situations you spend you MP on abyssal drain mostly and TBN, you choose to use you DA on abyssal drain in the case you need some HP or on dark passenger if you want to inflic a lot of damage, what we current have now? TBN as usual, edge being a shinten without any choice, you are forced to use 1 to dont overcap and expend all you can on TA and flood is you only choice on aoes, current DRK have less options and the "i spend my MP when i want" is technically a lie if you wanna play the job optimally bcs TA.

old DRK feels clunky if you was bad on it.

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Originally Posted by Rakshazi

For example "Split and carve"? I had an option: do I want mana or damage? About inconsistent damage - that's, again, YOUR opinion. I never had any problems with damage on DRK or MCH before and I've never had the strong wish to fall asllep in the dungeon, because I had something to do.The jobs were intersting and unique - not anymore, now they are just generic. Too simple and bleak. I will still play them, just because I like the THEME there was once, but as much as I played before.

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You didn't even get the name right.

You also always DA'd with CS for the MP gain. Again, there wasn't a choice.

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Originally Posted by Shucky

You didn't even get the name right.

You also always DA'd with CS for the MP gain. Again, there wasn't a choice.

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The name is not the point, i'm no english (imagine that). And AGAIN - it's YOUR opinion, just like I have mine. And for me there is always a choice. And I always will stand for options and INTERSTING mechanics of the game. They may be difficult for some simpletons - I DON'T CARE - but as far as job remains interesting and rich with options - it's a good job. Now there is none. Or, as you love to say - there is no choice anyway.

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Originally Posted by Shucky

You didn't even get the name right.

You also always DA'd with CS for the MP gain. Again, there wasn't a choice.

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You didn't even get how the skill was used right. :confused:

You used DA on C&S to do more damage, not gain MP.

Meanwhile i am glad that the old dark arts is gone mainly because of the animation i didn't like. I always did find it out of place, like going into super saiyan mode with a weird color, except that i do play FF14 and not some DBZ game. Something who did irritate me because it didn't visually fit with the other skills, especially when you had to spam it and see it all the time.

On the contrary i did always find that Bloodspiller was looking good, so i have a blast being able to spam it now several times in a row.

You can throw me rotten tomatoes if you dont like that some of the reasons i like the new DRK way much than the old are aesthetic ones XD

Do we have some numbers on how many people are playing DRK right now compared to SB ? In the end it is that who will determine if SE is gonna make big changes again to the job or not.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

You didn't even get how the skill was used right. :confused:

You used DA on C&S to do more damage, not gain MP.

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C&S I believe was a 10% mp regen with 100 pot if you used it without DA.

Otherwise it was 400 pot with no regen effect if you did use DA.

Just adding for the clarification

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Originally Posted by Kleeya

Meanwhile i am glad that the old dark arts is gone mainly because of the animation i didn't like. I always did find it out of place, like going into super saiyan mode with a weird color, except that i do play FF14 and not some DBZ game. Something who did irritate me because it didn't visually fit with the other skills, especially when you had to spam it and see it all the time.

On the contrary i did always find that Bloodspiller was looking good, so i have a blast being able to spam it now several times in a row.

You can throw me rotten tomatoes if you dont like that some of the reasons i like the new DRK way much than the old are aesthetic ones XD

Do we have some numbers on how many people are playing DRK right now compared to SB ? In the end it is that who will determine if SE is gonna make big changes again to the job or not.

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well leaving aside the DA animation vs edge animation the rework make almost nothing to bring ppl to the job since many old mains are angry about it and others are just half ok or simple ok. what bring ppl to the job was the marketing around it to promote the expansion and the "dark" theme on it, so is technically imposible bring accurate numbers bcs of that, many ppl that just didn't play/care the job before are playing now without a old version to base the level of fun of the current one and freely say it's fun.

what i miss now of the new animations it's one that make you feel you sacrifice you life, old DA have that feeling sacrificing you MP (life force in lore) to enchance you next attack, edge lack that feeling complety, if only the animation have some aura that come from you body to you sword or something.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

You didn't even get how the skill was used right. :confused:

You used DA on C&S to do more damage, not gain MP.

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And generally you had Grit turned off which gave C&S the MP gain.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

And generally you had Grit turned off which gave C&S the MP gain.

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Grit did nothing to the MP gain on CnS. At all. All grit did was double the MP regain on Syphon, and add the HP gain to SE.

Why is this thread still going lol, its people who don't know DRK complaining about DRK and people who know DRK complaining about DRK.