[Spoilers] I’m irrevocably Unimpressed

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

:p:o:D:mad::cool::rolleyes::( All these emotions

For sure. I hope we get to have an actual conversation with Zodiark! I feel like Zenos is going to try to steal, or utilize his power somehow so he can duel you. That's at least what I got from the very end from zenos's dialogue.

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10/10char pls

Yes, this is what I thought! It does make me wonder if this happens then how much energy would Zodiark have left? Enough to maybe bring life back to the first and reverse the damage done?

It is ascians fault to begin with cuse they did NOTHING to save themselves.

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

I like characters, big juicy characters...

But even then the living creatures on the star would be a part of him. When folks die now they return to Hydaelyn in the lifestream. So if, he was the 'daddy' crystal at that time then everything would be tied to him thy the lifestream. Those lives are already entwined with him - their aether is his aether. Unless it meant that by killing a portion of the life their aether would return to Zodiark, he would 'supposedly' use it to bring back those dead ascians... and thus weaken him further because each ascian has immense aether and can constantly create. It just seems so very confusing!

I look forward to see how this went about and how they could even think it was okay to even consider. I want to hear Zodiark and hear his 'thoughts' on this.

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Hmmm... :eek:

There's got to be something more to it... that life was created in the first place by sacrificing Amaurotine lives, so maybe it's some kind of equivalent exchange? When there's enough life on the planet to be an equal trade for the Amaurotines who sacrificed themselves without wrecking the planet, maybe then it would work? Hythlodaeus did say they'd do it "when the time was right," but didn't really elaborate on what that would actually mean.

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Originally Posted by Johaandr

It is ascians fault to begin with cuse they did NOTHING to save themselves.

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I don't follow...?

Their leaders were devising a way to save them.

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Originally Posted by mario710

Someone please help me understand why the bad guys are never allowed to win?

Something seemed awfully wrong about the way Emet-Selch was taken out. By all accounts, he should have won.

I mean, are Ascians even evil?

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I think the Ascians are evil. No qualm about hurting innocents is the very definition within my set of morality.

However, Gaius in Praetorium legit made some good sense and he has never committed atrocity in his pursuit of conquest. Those that oppose him do so on political and not moral grounds. So I can agree that it doesn't make sense to side against him simply because 'Imperialism bad'.

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Originally Posted by Kaethra

I think the Ascians are evil. No qualm about hurting innocents is the very definition within my set of morality.

However, Gaius in Praetorium legit made some good sense and he has never committed atrocity in his pursuit of conquest. Those that oppose him do so on political and not moral grounds. So I can agree that it doesn't make sense to side against him simply because 'Imperialism bad'.

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I mean he willingly fought for an empire that had genocide campaigns against various beastmen.

Ah, yes, slaughtering all filthy subhumansancients in order to bring back the master race no less is plainly, PLAINLY, A VERY GOOD THING. That people can actually take the Ascian's words and believe in them so wholeheartedly is frankly concerning.

Should have figured this sort of trash would have popped up after Varis's tripe in 4.5.

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Originally Posted by mario710

I mean, are Ascians even evil?

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The Ancients failed to diagnose their calamity and then sundered their world in 13 pieces. Emet-Selch considered these idiots to be "perfect" and decided it was worth drowning the rest of the worlds in an ocean of blood to resurrect the very people who cause the problem he's spend millenia trying to fix. He's evil. If he had his way, he'd commit mass genocide to resurrect the ancients with the Rejoining, then the ancients would repeat the cycle and sunder their world into pieces again. Emet-Selch's attempt at mass genocide would be for nothing. He's evil.

I feel like the Convocation's plan to sacrifice new lives to revive the old might even be a betrayal of those people's intentions. They willingly gave their lives for the planet's restoration - and now this small group of people in power (who have been tempered by Zodiark when they first summoned Him) decide "well, why don't we take all that new life and sacrifice it to bring back the original people?"

Basically Zodiark will keep asking for sacrifices until there are non left to satisfy his hunger, natural selection will just weed out the ones that are making things worse, which eventually restores balance to the world until some idiot who has 0 zero street smarts/common knowledge decides to wreck the planet again because they have a "higher education" (A.K.A. god complex) than the "pathetic common savages" (A.K.A. the silent majority that are struggling because of the privileged minority that have a god complex) and all life as we know it will end because Zodiark will now stop at the planet and will just consume everything in the universe... at least in context of the game world...


But TL;DR version is long term life goes on if WoL and friends win, but if Ascians win everything in the universe dies before Ascians can even relish in their victory...


I personally prefer the former over the latter...