New Player Experience Sucks! - Impending Expansion Problems

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I think it depends entirely on whether you want to play 'Final Fantasy XIV' or whether you want to play 'Shadowbringers'.

Think of it like going to see the Avengers movies. Sure, it makes no sense to watch Endgame without seeing the other movies. But if you were forced to watch every other movie before you could see Infinity War and Endgame, would you even bother?

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Well, can't say much about that - I did purchase Avengers DVD-pack (3 movies) and watched it before Endgame.

There really is no need to rush to Shadowbringers beyond wanting to experience the MSQ with everyone else. You won't be left out of the new expansion's raid content because that won't be released until later.

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Originally Posted by RicaRuin

People not seeing the sarcasm in OP claiming he was talking about himself is stunning.

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People will take what they want out of any given thing, whether in context or not, and believe it, as long as it reinforces their assumptions or opinions. While completely invalidating other's concerns, or opinions. Point proven.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

People will take what they want out of any given thing, whether in context or not, and believe it, as long as it reinforces their assumptions or opinions. While completely invalidating other's concerns, or opinions. Point proven.

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Well, you know, people will take what they want out of any given thing, whether in context or not, and believe it, as long as it reinforces their assumptions or opinions. While completely invalidating other's concerns, or opinions. Point proven.

Funny.

Okay, if you're just going to make fun of people responding to you, there is no value in this thread.

Multiple people have said that they see value in and derive enjoyment from content you/your friend do not. Neither side is wrong because the only conclusion we can derive from this is that the issue is largely subjective. The game could do more to streamline old content without relying on story skips and new game+, but at the same time, said content is important to the game's identity. Any player, whether real or imaginary, who is only interested in endgame activities and hates everything outside of it... probably isn't who this game is made for. And that's perfectly okay because the MMO market offers them an overabundance of alternatives.

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Originally Posted by Bonbori

Funny.

Okay, if you're just going to make fun of people responding to you, there is no value in this thread.

Multiple people have said that they see value in and derive enjoyment from content you/your friend do not. Neither side is wrong because the only conclusion we can derive from this is that the issue is largely subjective. The game could do more to streamline old content without relying on story skips and new game+, but at the same time, said content is important to the game's identity. Any player, whether real or imaginary, who is only interested in endgame activities and hates everything outside of it... probably isn't who this game is made for. And that's perfectly okay because the MMO market offers them an overabundance of alternatives.

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I will say this plainly. I don't like story skip, as it completely skips the story. New game+ is a bandaid, not a fix. I want people to be able to get to relevent, fun (arguably, apparently), content without having to spend dozens, or a hundred hours on ARR-SB to get to it, especially as more and more expansions will be released and this will only get worse. That being said, I also want people, like WoW to be able to play the older content at their own leisure. I don't know how they could streamline this, or fix this perfectly, since they have already dug themselves in a hole, but as the expansions pile up, so will the content bloat, in my opinion.

I have said this many times, speaking broadly, the focus was not on me nor my supposed 'fake' friend (cat). Apparently, it has gone completely over most people's heads so that they can focus on one thing.

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Originally Posted by LyraKuroneko

I'm lost on wether you really have a friend or not but if you have one, why not make an alt and play with him?
On the opposite if you have not,do you have any friend that could play with you?

Imo this MMO is all about story. I like the rest obviously. But I never could make people stay with gameplay only.

I know I'm not clear here but dunno how to express it, I hope you get it.

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I'm probably at that arbitrary post limit, but I'll just clear it up. Dude has 2 level 60 classes. Oddly still at ARR-HW (inbetween) content, I do roullete's with him. He has completed the ARR story. I was referring to the way he was expressing his feeling towards the grind, and I thought they many new/returning players would probably feel the same way, so I wanted to express my feelings on a flaw with the game. Since apparently this is all anyone can focus on. As if I have imaginary friends.

Helluuuuuuuuu

Why is the new content more relevant than the old content? It was all new once. Is it cause you have friends doing the new stuff?

Really, there's no point to rush. Yes, some of the ARR quests are a bit boring, but overall the story is one of the bigger selling points of this game. It's the staple of FF games, and it works for a lot of us. It's okay if you care more about the endgame and all, but keep in mind that you still have plenty of time to catch up before ShB gets here. Just a tip: stop worrying about this and enjoy the ride, because thinking too much like you do is what's making you feel this way.

I'm lost on wether you really have a friend or not but if you have one, why not make an alt and play with him?
On the opposite if you have not,do you have any friend that could play with you?

Imo this MMO is all about story. I like the rest obviously. But I never could make people stay with gameplay only.

I know I'm not clear here but dunno how to express it, I hope you get it.