Make Viera and Hrothgar non-binary / gender-neutral?

Oh sweet baby jesus no.

No, no, no, no, no, a thousand times no. No times no divided by no to the power of oh hell no!

Nah, I want both genders, plus it just creates a whole lot of other potential abuse scenarios.

Yeah this is definitely NOT the answer.

Sorry but no. I play a video game to fight monsters and make friends, not to worry about genders or someone’s pronouns. Half the time I don’t even pay attention to someone’s character unless they have a cool glamour.

Not to derail the conversation, but as a Japanese playing a game published and made in Japan, I have to point out that the country is far, far from the progressive nature most of the NA is. Japan doesn't recognize same sex marriages, and it even makes transgender people get sterilized (have surgery to remove the organs born with and then have organs that look like the gender they identify with) before they are legally allowed to get a name change/gender change papers. I don't mean to rain on people's parade, but JPN is very much more about conformity to societal norms and I highly, highly doubt anything like this would ever be allowed. The same thing goes for the non-gendered (sp) pronouns -- there are already soooo many tons of different pronouns we have to use depending on someone's age, rank, relationship to us, etc. that adding new ones even in the game wouldn't make sense and would just confuse people (at least confuse many non-English speakers, I'd think). To quote Yoshida in his recent article interview today: "This is a difficult era"

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hugowulf

Sorry but no. I play a video game to fight monsters and make friends, not to worry about genders or someone’s pronouns. Half the time I don’t even pay attention to someone’s character unless they have a cool glamour.

---

I suppose if it was a random person you could ignore their gender? Unless you feel the need to know everyone's gender when you run by them?
Or you know, if it was a friend, you could ask....

I'm pretty sure asking about someone's preferred pronouns is a lot easier than running a dungeon/raid. So if you can handle fighting monsters and making friends, i'm sure you're perfectly capable of asking a simple question.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Azurymber

Rather than having female Viera and male Hrothgar, why not just keep the existing body models, but give us variety in facial design and chest size?

Let people define their character's gender for themselves instead of defining it for them.
Don't list the gender for either race.
Have some masculine-esque facial choices for Viera
And some feminine-esque facial choices for Hrothgar
And add hair options that allow players to make male-looking or female-looking characters of each race.

This solves the "lack of resources" problem.
But also gives players the flexibility to play as whatever gender or identity they prefer.

It might require a bit of tweaking gear-wise (e.g. chests for viera), but at least it will give people more flexibility in how they play the game.

More flexibility and choice is always good (not SJW propaganda).

And lore can be updated to have both races as gender neutral (males and females are culturally similar in body-type and clothing).
And/or to have viera/hrothgar quests about non-binary life choices (in a respectful way).

---

there is way too much in the game atm that would have to be change to accommodate that would make this a feasible option

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Azurymber

Or you know, if it was a friend, you could ask....

I'm pretty sure asking about someone's preferred pronouns is a lot easier than running a dungeon/raid. So if you can handle fighting monsters and making friends, i'm sure you're perfectly capable of asking a simple question.

---

Do not bring silly pronouns into a game. Your gender does NOT matter in a game, stop trying to make it seem like it's more important then content itself.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pixelburst

Do not bring silly pronouns into a game. Your gender does NOT matter in a game, stop trying to make it seem like it's more important then content itself.

---

They aren't silly to the people who are using them.
You may not agree with them but that doesn't mean you should disrespect people who feel they are a necessary part of their self-expression.