Wrongful kicking people on third boss in new Ivalice raid

I had this happen to a friend of mine today. It was like our 3rd wipe on the third boss. Quick wipes at the beginning of the fight due to people not stacking for the duskblade circles. I think on the 3rd wipe we made it to add phase and even with most everyone alive none of the groups had the dps. Well my friend who had died several times was new and still learning and they decided to vote kick for offline.

They didnt even ask if he needed help or anything. I was like "wait no that's rude! He's not offline!" Needless to say I called them all jerks, left and blacklisted a few. I hope they are cursed never to finish that raid.

[QUOTE=whiskeybravo;4854444]Not to be captain obvious here, but casual players don't usually get up before the sun rises to run a new 24-man on patch day lol

Come to think of it... everyone in the alliance DID have The Ultimate Legend title. Ya know...healers were topping off party members, the MT had more than one HoT on him, and some healers actually rezzed the other alliances' healers. Yea... things only seen with hardcore players. That must be why I cleared. I DID log in before sunrise on patch day after all... ... ...a time only slotted for the hardcore.

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

Not to be captain obvious here, but casual players don't usually get up before the sun rises to run a new 24-man on patch day lol

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I mean, there are Australians (and others living in roughly the same time zone) playing on American servers, too (and I'm sure some of them are casual players). For me, servers opened at 8:30PM o:

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

Not to be captain obvious here, but casual players don't usually get up before the sun rises to run a new 24-man on patch day lol

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If it's so obvious you would know that players from many different timezones often play on datacentres different to where they are located, people have mains and alts all over the game. Casual is also subjective as we don't know who is or isn't casual just because they woke up early one day to do some new stuff, they might never log in again for several weeks/months, who knows.

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Originally Posted by SamsaraLotusx

Ye people are really shity there. Its first day abd people expect perfect clears. Just report. Dont let it go.

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um, the OP didn't mention any harassment....we shouldn't be reporting people for using the Vote Kick system...

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Originally Posted by Kurando

If it's so obvious you would know that players from many different timezones often play on datacentres different to where they are located, people have mains and alts all over the game. Casual is also subjective as we don't know who is or isn't casual just because they woke up early one day to do some new stuff, they might never log in again for several weeks/months, who knows.

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Well, back when 4.4 came out I got up as soon as the servers to complete NMs and unlock savage, and it was smooth as butter. But we had to go in as a static group because some others couldn't clear in DF later that day. I'd still equate the boost in DF performance to those people who are first to log in when a new patch comes up, they are more dedicated players compared to people who casually show up when they get the time.

Wow. After reading this thread, I guess I should consider myself fortunate to have actually gotten through this raid on my first attempt last night. We wiped a few times (6 times on the third boss, iirc), but there were no kicks, no abandon votes, and other than a couple snippy comments no one got particularly salty about it.

I'm still not 100% sure on some of the mechanics (especially on Thunder God), but I'm sure I'll figure them out with some practice.

I doubt this happened as OP said.

In two runs of Orbonne so far (only one cleared, the other vote abandoned with 30ishm left on the timer at the 3rd boss)...I've seen exactly one person get kicked: a SAM that had been in the group, died enough that his gear was 100% broken...and asked us to kick him so he didn't get a debuff after seriously trying.

I had disastrous runs of that boss where my alliance had to help kill adds at 50%. If you are that terrible, you deserve the kick.

I hate to be mean but the performance I've seen from players is soooo much worse in this raid than in Ridorana Lighthouse. Even day 1 it wasn't this bad, and I'll be honest Ridorana is a lot harder than this raid so I really don't understand why things are going so badly. Like what is so hard about 3 people stand in the circles?? And yet every time I try to run this we wipe at that mechanic 5 times.