In Game Voice Chat, Why doesn't this game have it and would you use if it did?

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Originally Posted by TalithaSolarien

ESO only has integrated chat on the Console versions, the PC client has no VO. Very, very few people use the integrated VO on PUGs (that might be an issue the the EU servers). The quality of the game chat VO clients is usually very bad in a lot of games (Destiny, ESO, GoW) so people usually just use the 1st party voice chat unless they really had to (PS4 party chat is 8 players only).

Using Discord as a PS4 player is possible but not that comfortable. You need a 2nd device (phone or PC) and (if you want to hear game sound as well) some creative cabeling to do so. Not a perfect solution. I can understand SE being weary adding VO support as it is complicated because:

a) you route everything through their servers, adding more lag and strain to them
b) route directly between clients and have to deal with NAT issues ...

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I can't speak for the PC version but the PS4 version of ESO only got text chat rather recently, like within the last year or so. Before that the only option you had to communicate was voice chat so if you planned to interact with anyone (even to just explain mechanics or ask why you had to tank an entire dungeon as a healer with an ice destro staff) voice was literally the only way to do so.

Let's be honest though. What we really want... is Discord available to PS4 and overlay integration that allows in-game links to be tagged for immediate searches and, more importantly, the ability to rapidly join Discord servers, with new (free user-count) servers or new rooms (in your own Discord) being auto-generateable based on your game's location or party specifications information. Prove me wrong.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

What we really want... is Discord available to PS4

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You false because... hum... not only discord ! Some (rare) people uses TS or mumble even now. (their choice ^^' )

Sony and Microsoft (and even nintendo) could now easily include discord, TS3 and mumble in their highly technologic box. XboxOne and PS4 are quite close to a computer. And it would be far more better that included an "ingame voice chat" on all online game.
And discord, teamspeak or mumble are light programs... It is just adding some small software in the PS4... not sure would be take them month of dev-work... Probably far less work than for SE creating an in-game voice chat for FFXIV

And a discord in PS4 it wouldnt be usefull only when you play with your team. I am not the only one who, sometimes, log to vocal chat on one discord server just... to speak with other people... that are maybe on other game than mine at the moment we speak... Wher an ingame voice chat would be limited to... the game you play.



Now, it is sadly not the place to request it, and i dont own any PS4 (or any other) but for PS4 players wanting to chat, there is better to claim this to sony than SE.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

I can't speak for the PC version but the PS4 version of ESO only got text chat rather recently, like within the last year or so. Before that the only option you had to communicate was voice chat so if you planned to interact with anyone (even to just explain mechanics or ask why you had to tank an entire dungeon as a healer with an ice destro staff) voice was literally the only way to do so.

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I know, I played the game for 4 years on PS4/EU. In all that time I've ran hundreds of dungeons via the group finder and I had maybe a handful of group where people were actually using the VO chat. This IMHO mostly due to the fact that while most Europeans can at least/write english to some extent not that many are able or willing to speak that language. For coordinated group this was of course different.

And yes, Sony, please give us a Discord client for the PS4.

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Originally Posted by TalithaSolarien

I know, I played the game for 4 years on PS4/EU. In all that time I've ran hundreds of dungeons via the group finder and I had maybe a handful of group where people were actually using the VO chat. This IMHO mostly due to the fact that while most Europeans can at least/write english to some extent not that many are able or willing to speak that language. For coordinated group this was of course different.

And yes, Sony, please give us a Discord client for the PS4.

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As much as I didn't enjoy only having voice chat to communicate I can't imagine navigating some of the dungeons (and mostly the players) that I encountered playing that game without any communication.

Props to you. At least NA used voice when it was the only option.

It still doesn't hold a candle to Discord of course. If I could give my phone or tablet a break and just run discord from my ps4 I would be thrilled.

Yes, because having the game disconnect you while you're talking to folks is what we need. Shooters can pull it off because they don't have as much data running back and forth, mostly bullet drop and character positions. Damage is negligible because it's mostly a simple (Caliber-Distance)(Armor-Area of body)=Damage instead of some amorphous hellscape formed by the dark gods named leveliathan, gearthulu, rng-oroth, and mitigationicifer.

Why?

a) Developer time required to make an in-built VC.
b) Above gets skipped by most people due to popularity of existing external VC clients.
c) Regardless of whether you do/don't use it, some people will also use it as a beating stick - one can argue it is in a similar vein to their stance on DPS meters.

There's honestly no reason for me to advocate in-built VC when there are already externals I prefer. In many games I play where it was a recent addition, such as WoW or Heroes of the Storm, people either never use it (WoW), or try to force people into it (HotS). Then you realize that aside from those not using it or trying to force it, everyone is using externals anyway.

TLDR - It's simply not worth it from anyone's perspective, be it the players or SE.

I would use ingame voice chat only if it was proximity-type voice chat, for RP purpose

I wouldn't use it outside of say, ex primals/savage raids if I signed up for them. Rest of the game, you don't really need that level of communication.

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Originally Posted by Hamada

Game does not allow blacklist while in a dungeon. I an not even sure what the point of this post is, it is like you are trying to defend reasons why we can have it when we know it is not happening.



Yoshi-p addressed your "counters" for number 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, and for number 8, that explaing would not matter, see what yoshi-p said, so this suggestion is a clear no, there is no point in trying to counter AmemeAmeklin's post

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And all what he said doesn't affect me since I have Discord anyway.

The thing is for people who're on Playstation, they do not have discord they have to use their phone or laptop or w/e. At the start of SB there where 2 people in my group who were on Playstation, one had his laptop with headset and the other used his phone with headset, they cannot use push to talk and cannot enjoy the music of the game since it would be send in the mic all the time.

I'd be annoyed if I was a Playstation player and I'd feel as they rub it off as 'wrong platform' and that I should get PC version.

How does a Playstation user clear ultimate when the other 7 players are on PC and using Discord and the Playstation user won't/don't have phone or laptop with discord?