What do you think was the worst thing this game experienced from 2.0 until now?

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Originally Posted by Gemina

For me, the worse things that come to mind were how badly SCH was nerfed at the start of 4.0. Another sin added for the devs thinking that bringing a job down instead of the others up is how to fix things. The exception is over-tuning AST. I'm adding another sin for that BS. This felt like a parent giving in to their kid's constant cry for cookies so he/she just gives them the jar and says, "There! now STFU!"

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Originally Posted by Ilyrian

Ha! That is such an accurate analogy!

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Eh, not really? Astro's absurd buff in 3.4 came out of pure desperation. It was actually pretty decent in Midas but had developed such a strong stigma due to its horrendous launch, people just refused to play it, let alone groups still favoring White Mage. The devs basically said, "Please play this job! It's better now!" Why that buff lasted into Stormblood at all remains a mystery though.

The Forbidden Land of Eureka: Pagos. Hands down. I would rather do Diadem. I enjoyed 2.0 Diadem more than I did Pagos because at least I could gather stuff in there to turn for profit, or use in company workshop projects (Darksteel Ore, anyone?).

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Eh, not really? Astro's absurd buff in 3.4 came out of pure desperation. It was actually pretty decent in Midas but had developed such a strong stigma due to its horrendous launch, people just refused to play it, let alone groups still favoring White Mage. The devs basically said, "Please play this job! It's better now!" Why that buff lasted into Stormblood at all remains a mystery though.

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I wasn't aiming for accuracy with my analogy. It's just how it felt at the time, especially considering I wasn't playing AST then. So when I read those patch notes of their insane buffs, it left me thinking why anyone would even continue to play WHM or SCH. Since I am someone who favors the underdog, I left AST behind out of pure spite. It wasn't until the tail end of my HW journey that I finally decided to play it, which was about a year after SBs release.

Having got all my healers to my current level of 65, and still having to do lv70 raiding; at this point it seems that those buffs still have a residual effect to this day. SCH and WHM both have clear weaknesses at this level, while the biggest weakness I can think of for AST is that they get no offensive AoE until lv52. They do have the worst MP efficiency of the three healers, but this isn't going to be an issue in 90% of the game's content. The RNG gate behind their cards isn't really what I would call a weakness either, because this job can do nearly everything a WHM does without them. Granted, I still need to get access to Divine Benison and Plenary Indulgence, but that is my view as of right now.

Ultimately and perhaps ironically, I ended up really enjoying AST. The job plays very smooth, and is probably the least clunky of all the ones I play.

Eureka : Anemos, Pagos, Saltos, whatever.

I've been playing this game since 2.0 and even the lags on titan, the absurdly long fillers quests in the MSQ, the Diadem or the palace of the dead can come close to it. To me, Eureka is an insult towards the playerbase and I can't believe it even got approved for release.

This is the content that got me burned out with the game, where I understood that the devs probably don't have the creativity to take the game to new height. But it's also something that was disappointing since Eureka need so little to be good, that it's a surprise that Pagos is even worse than Anemos even after so many feedbacks from the players.

I hate it to the point that if I was forced to choose, I'd rather rip off my nails rather than playing it.


Eureka is not only a poorly designed content that is really not fun to play, it's also the content that disenchanted me with this game and I hate it for that.

An increase in things added to mogstation alongside a decrease in vanity or decently designed new items added straight into the game, as well as shuffling around free goodies like the hairstyles that always went straight to the aesthetician so that we now need to earn them through gameplay and less effort can go into designing actual content rewards in addition to them.

That, and players asking for dyable versions of old gear sets. Because that’s nearly all we get anymore. Reskins. Which is maddening because it makes the cash shop shineys look more appealing (which I suspect is the true purpose) while at the same time making me feel dissappointed enough in SE to not want to buy them. All while SE gets to hide behind the fact that players requested this thing and they are giving us what we want. Well, yeah, I did want those things dyable, but in no way did I want to keep getting them for every update as opposed to something new.

It's already been said, but the Mog Station. Including the extra retainers that you can't even buy, but instead rent.

Come on, man. F2P games offer better extra storage space than this.

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Originally Posted by Asiragan

Eureka : Anemos, Pagos, Saltos, whatever.

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hahahahaha that got me laughing so hard XD

I would say scraping 1.0.

The over complex rotations that asked you to do more then you would playing a capcom fighting game being perfect in your combos and NEVER dropping your 1 frame links. Nerfing old content and listening to the loud mouths who made it happen, and not making monk as strong as possible. I want it to be the BEST. - ok that last one is a bit of a joke- The best thing I think SE has done besides make the game itself, is making it so jam packed with things other than just battle content. I love the QOL stuff, the fact I can own a house, an apt and just flat out live in this game makes it the best mmo EVER to me. I hardly EVER log out.. why would I need too? I work, sleep, try to find a cuddle buddy, fight, go on adventures, and even just chill in my house on lazy days and chill all in one game. Bucking fantasicbastic :D

When they made diadem and it was just kill monsters. Or when they re-did diadem and it was just kill monsters to FATE. Or when they said they learned their lesson and made Eureka but it was just kill monsters to FATE. Or when they made Pagos and said it'd be better but it was just kill monsters. Or when they changed pagos and it was just kill monsters to FATE.