Unfaithful FC mates ANNOY me...

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Originally Posted by K1tt

People leaving doesn't annoy me, but just leaving without saying anything is a bit rude. I'd hope there was some etiquette e.g just saying 'thanks for having me' would be nice (assuming they didn't have any negative feelings towards an fc)

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I don't think positive or negative feelings should have anything to do with being civil. Even if you have some negative feelings it doesn't hurt to say thank you for the opportunity. In fact it might impress other members that you don't have issues with and are also thinking of leaving offer to start a new FC or Linkshell with you.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

Seriously, why the heck would they join in the first place when all they'll do is leave?

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Maybe join a better FC? Or if you're the leader, let it pass and recruit people who will stay. (But even that is not always possible cause 5/10 they might leave.)

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I value my time, and time spent building a bond with them only to have them leave is time greatly wasted.

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And they value THEIR time and if you aren't offering what they want, they will leave and you just have to respect that and move on. You can't have it your way all the time. This isn't Burger King. You can't always have it your way. That's asking too much.

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It... pisses... me... off.

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That's life dude. I know how you feel, but there's nothing you can do about it.

I'm surprised people are still taking this dude seriously.

OP's use of "unfaithful" in the title of the post bothers me.

No one is obligated to stay in any fc they join. You don't sign a contract, you don't swear an oath, there is no binding agreement. Unless they have stolen things from the fc chest, purposely waited until fc members gave them specific items before leaving or started drama based on false rumours...then you can call them unfaithful. Even then that's not the word I would use to describe those people. Selfish scum is more apt.

It sucks when people leave but if they're not happy then it's better they just go. Unhappy members can cause rifts whether they become irritable or shut themselves off from other players. A fc can only thrive when the members are happy. When you lead a community you have to accept that it's not everyone's idea of the best place to be. We're all different.

If a fc has an epidemic of players leaving after a short membership then there is definitely something wrong. I'm going to talk about a few possible reasons.

It could be that the recruitment advertisement is too vague. Contrary to what many think, the recruitment process isn't just for attracting people but it's also for filtering out the kind you don't want. If the way you describe the fc says nothing specific, then you can't really hope to attract the sort of players you're interested in or discourage those you don't want.

Another possible reason is the fc doesn't live up to the image it tries to be. This can happen for many reasons but the primary one is usually the rules. If rules aren't upheld then over time the state of the fc will no longer align with the vision the leaders have. Also there's no point in having rules if you wait until the last minute to enforce them. Don't wait until the situation is unbearable. Act while it's still something that can be tidied calmly. Waiting until a mess is huge runs the risk of members feeling like the fc leaders aren't brave enough to fulfill their role, and this often leads to people leaving.

It also could be that new members are not being given enough space. Being too enthusiastic can be very off putting. A lot of people are wary of those they don't know and can find someone trying too hard to be friendly very unsettling. Don't smother people with offers of help or conversation. Keep it chill. Most players are looking for a relaxing community, not a place to be bombarded with offers of help or a questionnaire about their lives.

The last is a common reason many don't like to read: not everyone is leadership material.

Best intentions don't get things done. Being a nice person sadly isn't enough to lead a community. There is such thing as being too nice to be a leader. A leader cannot be afraid to tell their friends when they're out of line. A leader cannot let a problem fester out of the fear of offending someone enough to leave because that can end up with several people leaving as the problem grows. And a leader cannot assume that if no one complains that means nothing is wrong. If you see something isn't right, don't wait for someone else to complain before you act. Not every person speaks up the moment something is wrong, many suffer in silence.

There's nothing wrong with not being leadership material. If we all were there would be no need for leaders. There is just as much value in followers. Leaders cannot exist without people to follow them.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

I guess the real question is... Why the heck are you a king if you're a woman? You do realize that women are incapable of leadership, right?

(Not serious)

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Even as a joke, I somehow took this seriously.
Women ARE capable of leadership, we just never get the same chance. Even if we did we were paid less for 20%.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Haha, it's just a first name, not a title!
A strange first name I suppose but you're one of very few who ever brought this up. Congrats!

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I love the way you handled the response. If only more people were like this. =)

Oh... this thread again.

Great...

Why was this thread necroed to push politics over a joke?

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Originally Posted by Zsolen

Why was this thread necroed to push politics over a joke?

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Because people are bored.

I was in a FC once where there was a person in it for over year, got ranked up enough to use the company chest, only to take everything in it, and then leave. It made me finally level my gatherers at least, to help restock what we lost.

(I ended up leaving that FC myself when the servers moved, and I could no longer play on it without 360+ ping. :<)