What Happens To Houses We Have on Same World? Do We Get Our Money Back?

Amen. Preach on, Rin!

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Originally Posted by JackHatchet

I think what really grinds my gear is the utter lack of empathy house hoarders have.

We're talking about people who have no emotional ability to connect with the rest of society. They don't understand why it's wrong for them to over-extend while others have not. It would be one thing to say "yeah, I appreciated extra housing when no one needed it, so it was fun while it lasted." And another thing to be all "yeah, those people missed out. Sucks to be them. My 3 alts need their RP houses!"

The problem is that these people can't even understand or comprehend why they're actions are wrong. They sit there confused. "I don't know why everyone is so mad!"

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Couldnt agree more

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Originally Posted by JackHatchet

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People aren't hoarding houses. The majority of players that have more than one is rare and they typically own 2 or 3 to support their alts. Yes there is that fabled couple that owns a full ward but they are the exception not the rule. I also posit they are using housing exactly as SE intended. SE considers alts as unique characters not alternate identities of the same player. Following this line of reasoning it makes sense that SE intended for alts to have their own houses. Now to be honest most of the player base doesn't feel this way about alts and would be more than happy to share a house among all of their characters on a server but SE doesn't allow this.

What I'm tired of hearing is a bunch of sour grapes and misdirected angst. It is not the players who created the cluster frick of a housing system and doubled down when it was a failure. It was and still is SE. So maybe you should redirect your ire from the players who are only doing as the game intends and towards SE who created and owns the problem.

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Originally Posted by JackHatchet

I think what really grinds my gear is the utter lack of empathy house hoarders have.
"I don\\'t know why everyone is so mad!"

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Everything you said here is incorrect. You are projecting and assuming you know what people are like. I would ask you do you understand empathy? Because what you are showing is a complete lack of it, and a lack of understanding of the situation. You are acting as if everyone that has multiple houses had a nefarious goal. Many of them have had houses for years before the game became more popular and the lack of houses became an issue. If SE had the foresight when houses started to run low they could have added more wards, or created instance housing years ago. If they had continued to be proactive from the start we wouldn’t have this issue. Attacking those that have houses is asinine at best.

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I also posit they are using housing exactly as SE intended. SE considers alts as unique characters not alternate identities of the same player. Following this line of reasoning it makes sense that SE intended for alts to have their own houses.

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And yet, Square-Enix had to go out of their way to implement rules preventing alts from buying houses in 4.2 onward. You can't honestly tell me that Square-Enix 'expected' people to buy houses for their alts when there wasn't enough houses for everyone. I imagine Square-Enix never anticipated people to buy houses for their alts, and by people taking advantage of a loop-hole that resulted in hurting the experience for other players did it cause Square-Enix to step in and prohibit toxic behavior.

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

So you're telling me cause I, someone who love this game to the death and been active since alpha 1.0 who play all classes, love crafting and gathering AND decordating my houses, cause yes I have and had multible houses (currently own 3 houses incl 1 FC mansion) should be punished for following the game rules?

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I'm saying you're not thinking-critically on the situation. You're putting your personal experiences ahead of the community. You argue that you should have houses because 'you' enjoy them. Be damned everyone else. And that's why you lack empathy. You can't think beyond your own bubble.

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Originally Posted by JackHatchet

I'm saying you're not thinking-critically on the situation. You're putting your personal experiences ahead of the community. You argue that you should have houses because 'you' enjoy them. Be damned everyone else. And that's why you lack empathy. You can't think beyond your own bubble.

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Well everyone is thinking about themself, of course. No one who own more than 1 house would be like 'Oh! Im gonna give up something i worked hard for to a random stranger cause they are salty and think it's unfair' No.

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Originally Posted by JackHatchet

And yet, Square-Enix had to go out of their way to implement rules preventing alts from buying houses in 4.2 onward. You can't honestly tell me that Square-Enix 'expected' people to buy houses for their alts when there wasn't enough houses for everyone. I imagine Square-Enix never anticipated people to buy houses for their alts, and by people taking advantage of a loop-hole that resulted in hurting the experience for other players did it cause Square-Enix to step in and prohibit toxic behavior.

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No loopholes were being used. SE don't view alts like you do, they are invidual characters and treated as such. I'm glad houses are grandfathered.

I realy hope they rid of these multiplot owners after implementing this new rule. 1 Privathouse and 1 FC per World should be more than enough. These people are one of the main reason why the current house situation is so bad right now. I would give them 2 weeks to decide witch one they want to keep and demloish the others and if they dont chose SE would do this for them after the time.

The chick above is so incredibly salty, it's hilarious. I busted my ass to get my houses, while all you whine and cry about things not being fair, you should've been camping auto demolished plots. I didn't do ANYTHING in game, except for scout for houses. I've spent hundreds (yes hundreds) of hours memorizing plot #s , locations, timed the fastest routes to each plot, asking around, etc. While you all were doing raids, and running around NOT focusing on housing, I was there house hunting. I've found over 60+ smalls, 15mediums, and 7 larges, within the last 2 months that auto demo was still on. I camped sometimes 10-12hes a day, and called out emoty plots to all my LS, FC, and even random shouts . I even bought 13 smalls for other players, so when I bought a few for myself (that no one camped either), I did. And now, I'm supposed to give you a handout? Psshh....piss off. /Bye Felicia.

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Originally Posted by JackHatchet

You can't honestly tell me that Square-Enix 'expected' people to buy houses for their alts when there wasn't enough houses for everyone.

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Yes I can based on the fact that they designed the game so that every character previously was allowed to purchase a house. If it wasn't the intended design, they would have taken it out a long time ago (2.1 which added FC houses was over 4 years ago and 2.38 which added personal houses was over 3 years ago). You can believe it wasn't "expected" behaviour all you like, but the evidence suggests it was.

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Originally Posted by JackHatchet

I imagine Square-Enix never anticipated people to buy houses for their alts, and by people taking advantage of a loop-hole that resulted in hurting the experience for other players did it cause Square-Enix to step in and prohibit toxic behavior.

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It's not a loophole if it's intended design. Like you said yourself, you're only assuming it's not by design, but there's considerably more evidence suggests it is and very little suggesting it wasn't.

And as for "step in" now, that's probably because people have been screaming for restrictions for quite some time now. Housing demolition wasn't a thing either until the community demanded it and to me these new restrictions seems exactly the same, we've kicked up a fuss, they're putting it in to keep us quiet.