Are people really like this?

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

I play on PS4, yes I can't figure out my numbers, but I have peeps for that, that do not mind.

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Let me guess... PC players?

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

Talking in Discord has never been an issue or any voice chat really. It's why I have my laptop beside me while I play.

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If you use PS4+PC then it's not pure PS4 experience.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

It's almost as if you're suggesting that PS4 users generally don't have any business being in serious end game raiding, in which case, that's a really messed up analysis about 'PS4 players'.

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It's a fact that all world first teams are almost exclusively PC players, better performance analisys and communications gives massive advantage in hardest end game content. Note that this has nothing to do with using KB+M or console controller, many PC players switched to PS4 controllers now.

Its funny because they are playing FFXIV which supports consoles. So by that logic they should quit the game because playing FFXIV goes against what they stand for

People entirely miss the point that party leader can setup any rules he wants. If you fnd them stupid or ridiculous, you are at luxury to setup your own party. I find lootmaster 'in order of joining' parties even more stupid, but I don't complain about them on the official forum.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

The whole fflogs and serious high end raiding is based around PC.

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Since when do you need fflogs for high end raiding? Statements like this is why we have threads like this in the forum.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

If you use PS4+PC then it's not pure PS4 experience.

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Ok now its clear that you're trolling.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

It's a fact that all world first teams are almost exclusively PC players, better performance analisys and communications gives massive advantage in hardest end game content. Note that this has nothing to do with using KB+M or console controller, many PC players switched to PS4 controllers now.

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Where did KB+M or console controller come from? Perhaps the world first teams are majority PC players, however, that doesn't mean that PS4 players cannot fight in endgame on their level. I take issue with the comment about PS4 players, we are not disadvantaged because we cannot parse ourselves.

You know, actually, the comment that I was replying to actually answers the OP's thread question, now that I think about it.

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Originally Posted by Hausti

Ok now its clear that you're trolling.

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While I'm not so sure if there's anything like it on PS4, I know on Xbox One it's possible to get a "Pure Xbox One experience" while using Discord, albeit through a BETA. Clamour, which is a 3rd party app, for Discord. How do I know it exists? I had it on my Windows Phone. If there's one for Xbox One/Windows Phone (which btw, Microsoft have killed off) and shortly for PCs running Windows 10 S (which can't install Discord via the Windows Store), then I'm sure someone could bash something together for PS4. Then even by his standards, it'd be a pure PS4 experience! Yes, Clamour supports voice chat in servers too (not private chats though).

I hear this PS4 is only for people who can't buy gaming PCs comment come up a lot in this type of discussion. I used to play on PC, switched to PS4 so I can sit on the couch and get away from the PC after being on it all day at work. Plus I can get up and walk around with controller in hand while playing on a TV screen big enough for me to read text from across the room. I just wish PS4s had more USB slots so I can keep the keyboard, controller cable, mouse, and external HD plugged in all the time. Anyway it's just a platform, a preference, and each option has pros and cons. But if you are big on metagaming, PS4s are probably not for you.

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Originally Posted by Aivi_lo

It made me feel kinda sad really. Some people may not have the funds or technical knowledge to keep a pc up-to-date, and there are other reasons too. I did wonder how they intended to vet party members, and if their disgust stretched far enough to stop them playing roulettes.

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"consoles are anti-consumer and detrimental to the gaming community as a whole. I won't support them in any way."

I wish he/she expanded on this and hopefully had some thought put into it, as I disagree with the quote. But as it is, it says nothing about parsing, FFlogs, or console player's abilities to perform in FFxiv (which is what a lot of posts here are suggesting). It's very much "PCmasterrace" but it's also very easy to ignore.

It's no different from racism in retrospect. Just another knuckle dragging neanderthal. Just take pleasure in the blissful reality that you'll never reach that frightening level of blatant stupidity. Forget about them and move on with your life.
Goodness only knows that pug probably would have been a shit show anyways. Lets be real here lol.