Liveblog JP - Yoshi P's 4.2 Housing Plan Discussion

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

So question is the 8 fcs with 1 char do you know for a fact there all the same person?? Or are you now saying people who have fcs by them selfs for storage or airships cant own homes??

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does it matter if it's the same person if they are alts? one account with 8 alts or 4 accounts with 2 alts each, there are still plenty of players and FCs with many people that don't have any plots.

yes, i am saying there shouldn't be single player FC houses. it's obviously circumventing how the game was designed for a single player to have airships, you can't build airships by yourself. a single player should have a personal house, that's plenty for storage. a single player should not have a personal house and an FC house where they are the only person in the FC. it's a broken system that allows this to happen.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

does it matter if it's the same person if they are alts? one account with 8 alts or 4 accounts with 2 alts each, there are still plenty of players and FCs with many people that don't have any plots.

yes, i am saying there shouldn't be single player FC houses. it's obviously circumventing how the game was designed for a single player to have airships, you can't build airships by yourself. a single player should have a personal house, that's plenty for storage. a single player should not have a personal house and an FC house where they are the only person in the FC. it's a broken system that allows this to happen.

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Yes it matters cause your comment was in reply to me saying that i've only seen the mathus crew of 2 people owning a entire ward. meaning one person owning 16 houses i'snt wide spread. My hats off to them i know beating the story 3 times was a pain in the butt for my self..and keep in mind when they did it the server was dead those houses at empty

And no matter how you slice this pie, if you have 2,880 houses and 7.500 people on a server there will always be people with out houses

As far as the single player fc i agree it wasnt to be since you need 4 people to make a fc and 4 to run a crafting station.but that falls on SE for not disbaninng Fcs when they go under the 4 players .

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

Yes it matters cause your comment was in reply to me saying that i've only seen the mathus crew of 2 people owning a entire ward

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you also said this which is completely not true for any of the examples on my server.

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

Most the legit (nonflippers) who own more then one house own 2-3 for rp purposes and have owned them

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

2 people owning a entire ward. meaning one person owning 16 houses i'snt wide spread.

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ultimately, it's the same problem. that's like saying you only know 2 people over 500 lbs and that's supposed to prove obesity is not a widespread problem. it's such a weak position to defend the absolute extreme.

everything falls on SE which is why they should fix it.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

you also said this which is completely not true for any of the examples on my server.





ultimately, it's the same problem. that's like saying you only know 2 people over 500 lbs and that's supposed to prove obesity is not a widespread problem. it's such a weak position to defend the absolute extreme.

everything falls on SE which is why they should fix it.

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you replyed quoting me to a comment where i was asking someone to show me these many other people who own wards.as far as i know only the two mathus people who own a ward in the months since free transfers this is the only 2 ppl that have been stated by the many of posters. i was asking for more examples of 2 people who own a ward..so you comment of well theres 8 fcs with 1 person dosen't fit unless its the same two people hense why i askedd if its the same person..

as far as not true on your server fine, but in the people i know and have talked to on these fourms or even made a alt now were up to 3 people who made a alt on my server to say they feel the same way about losing there multi houses and why they have them seems to boil down to RP they play each charcther as its own.own style look and even houses..but id bet that there are people on your server who own more then one house for rp purposes meaning there charcter has differnt style then the first.

The only thing im defending is the right to keep what people got by following the rules laid out in front of us..thats it..

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

does it matter if it's the same person if they are alts? one account with 8 alts or 4 accounts with 2 alts each, there are still plenty of players and FCs with many people that don't have any plots.

yes, i am saying there shouldn't be single player FC houses. it's obviously circumventing how the game was designed for a single player to have airships, you can't build airships by yourself. a single player should have a personal house, that's plenty for storage. a single player should not have a personal house and an FC house where they are the only person in the FC. it's a broken system that allows this to happen.

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I know a lot of people who like their one person FC's and they are very actively using them. I don't see how SE could say no you can't do that because some people complained on the forum. Just because they are a solo FC doesn't mean they don't have rights to housing.

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The reason why we do not want to disclose any detail is that we want to give a fair chance to everyone. If we told you our plans, players will immediately start to prepare and we want to avoid that. That said, there will be more features and policies around this new addition, so please don't worry about plots selling out too quickly.

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So something that if we knew about it we could prepare for it? Doesn't the mean that it would be ineffective for all future ward/housing district additions?

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However we are able to track players who buy a house with the intent of making a profit reselling it, so rest assure that we are taking actions against these players.

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My personal experience shows that to not be the case thus far, but if you say so Yoshida. :)

What could people possable prepare for .only thing i can think is a change in the rank of GC to buy a house or adding the use of GC seals....And your right Dusty kinda make its null n void for any wards after lol

While not perfect I really hope they just make it so 1 personal house per account / server and allow that house to be shared across on characters on said server. I know it will not fix much, but at the very least will no longer have to read peoples comments regarding people owning more then one plot, will also limit flippers.

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Originally Posted by Awha

While not perfect I really hope they just make it so 1 personal house per account / server and allow that house to be shared across on characters on said server. I know it will not fix much, but at the very least will no longer have to read peoples comments regarding people owning more then one plot, will also limit flippers.

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So what would happen to everyone with more than 1 house per account? Imagine all time and gil people spent on the houses, buying, decorating etc

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

So what would happen to everyone with more than 1 house per account? Imagine all time and gil people spent on the houses, buying, decorating etc

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RIP us that is what will happen to us that own multiple plots per server. I know it is unfair owning multiple plots per server, but I will not relinquish said plots until SE forces me to.