Possible AST nerf

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

And last, to spam shields to even attempt that means you'll run out of MP pretty fast, Aspected benefic or helios is NOT cheap to keep up. The only way to get away with spamming it is if you have lucid dreaming and an enchanced/extended ewer up, again, another RNG based combo.

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Go lakshimi pop aoe shield+ divine seal or collective + aoe shield for any stack or aoe mechanic. Also isn't it cheaper to prevent the damage then it is to heal it? Unless your going use earthly star then don't bother using any shields earthy will heal them up to full hp if charged or most their hp if insta cast.

And ya I only use balance somtimes I'll aoe arrow cuz it's a pretry nice dps increase.

Somtimes I do stop trying hunt for balances and use all the cards as they are if things are getting pretty bad but if everything is going smoothly why would I need any other cards?

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Originally Posted by simiii

I can keep a aoe balance a good 60-70% of the fight

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I main AST and WHM and...uh....

Can you teach me how you keep AoE balance on for 60-70% of the fight on AST? I mean...you obviously have some sort of secret power *coughhacks* to be able to do this because I definitely can't.

Average EX primal fight and/or Savage Raid boss is around 10-11 mins...so if you can keep Balance on for 60-70% of the fight that means Balance is on every player in the group for 6-7 mins out of 10-11 mins of a fight...

You would need to draw 14 balances and 14 spire/ewer (to get the Royal Road) to achieve this. You realize that is almost impossible right?

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

You should try actually using noct stance then, or PLAYING AST because noct not only saves very well in dungeons trash mobs or as a great shield. but any good AST knows when to switch between the 2. during certain situations and fights.

Not just "diurnal onry" usually the type of mentaility shared by those ASTs who only use one card and forget the others exist.

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Yes I play ast since 3.0 was launched.
Also, I have first Susano of Cerberus server AD AST. Also, I have 90th percentile as ast SOLO HEALING Lakshmi. And also I'M ALWAYS 90th percentiles on raid AS MAIN HEALER. So don't come saying I don't know the class. I'm pretty sure I know more than you.

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Originally Posted by simiii

Go lakshimi pop aoe shield+ divine seal or collective + aoe shield for any stack or aoe mechanic.

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Yea, i had to stop reading there, you used the easiest primal in existence of this entire games history who's damage is pretty laughable to heal to begin with as an example.

Can't take you seriously anymore.

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Originally Posted by Caduagm

Yes I play ast since 3.0 was launched.
Also, I have first Susano of Cerberus server AD AST. Also, I have 90th percentile as ast SOLO HEALING Lakshmi. And also I'M ALWAYS 90th percentiles on raid AS MAIN HEALER. So don't come saying I don't know the class. I'm pretty sure I know more than you.

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and then YOU ALSO do the same thing. Lmao! because solo healing her is incredibly hard, for ANY healer. You clearly do NOT know more if you thought noct was anywhere close to "poop" you already failed, Come back to me after savage is released. Not to mention if you're solo healing, you'll be using dirunal anyway outside of r dungeon trash, but this is the different situation that i was talking about.

Lakshmi is serious, true endgame it seems.

Also Nobody cares about server first of the second easiest primal. But as i stated above, when some actual hard content is released, we'll see where you stand.

even if they nerfed AST... SCH would still have terrible shields, terrible MP management, and the fairy would still be useless. WHM would still have tremendous overhealing that isn't needed, and no utility. Nerfing AST isn't the best answer, it is just dragging them down into the muck with the rest...

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Originally Posted by Miste

Can you teach me how you keep AoE balance on for 60-70% of the fight on AST? I mean...you obviously have some sort of secret power *coughhacks* to be able to do this because I definitely can't.

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Start off with a balance in hand get in raid draw and if you get another balance use the1 you just drew. If you ever want to sleeve draw make sure you have a balance or aoe buff already stored. If you sleeve draw and you didn't get a aoe buff but the card is a ewer/spire burn it NEVER sleeve draw w.o at least a balance or aoe buff.

If you didn't get a aoe balance then just use one you have stored and try again you have a extra 10 seconds to draw and see if you get a ewer/spire or balance if you didn't get any those 3 cards then your just outa luck

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Originally Posted by simiii

Start off with a balance in hand get in raid draw and if you get another balance use the1 you just drew. If you ever want to sleeve draw make sure you have a balance or aoe buff already stored. If you sleeve draw and you didn't get a aoe buff but the card is a ewer/spire burn it NEVER sleeve draw w.o at least a balance or aoe buff.

If you didn't get a aoe balance then just use one you have stored and try again you have a extra 10 seconds to draw and see if you get a ewer/spire or balance if you didn't get any those 3 cards then your just outa luck

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Yea, ignoring RNG, because if you never get another balance after that first one, for the rest of the fight, that % you made up, is gone, i'm pretty sure miste already knew that, she was asking you how made up those numbers that just aren't possible.

But that flew right over your head.

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Originally Posted by Velox

You do realize that, as far as development time goes (which costs money), it takes a lot less time to alter 1 job than it does to alter 2+ jobs.

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How about they just leave job skills alone and work on que times for dps instead. hour+ que time for dungeon way to long.

The sheer number of ASTs I've seen in the past weeks pretending this is okay is really starting to annoy me.
I'm going to keep it simple.
Nocturnal AST aspected benefic:
-230/575 heal/shield. SCH's is 300/300
-instant cast. SCH's has a cast time
-costs less MP. SCH's adloquium had an MP cost increase, on top of aetherflow MP return being cut from 20% to 10%. Casting adloquium twice = MP cost of raise
-nocturnal aspected helios > succor. 172.5/258.75 vs 150/150
-AST now has eye 4 eye
-AST now has better AOE damage than SCH with how badly they nerfed bane, removing one of their dots that would have been spread by bane, the removal of blizzard 2, and miasma 2 (which I guess they're going to give back, but it was only 20 potency aoe, with a 10 potency DOT, so it won't do nearly enough to replace everything they axed)
-AST AOE healing isn't tied to 30 second cooldowns

SCH's advantage is now limited to:
-number of OGCD heals
-crit adloquium (which costs too much MP)

How about people be honest, read tooltips, do some math, and realize that thanks in part ASTs being buffed for literally years as well as several nerfs, SCH lost a major chunk of its identity. It's not hyperbole to say you may as well play nocturnal sect AST at this point. SE went too far with AST buffs, and SCH pruning, and they know it from the last live letter.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

How about they just leave job skills alone and work on que times for dps instead. hour+ que time for dungeon way to long.

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The number of DPS outweigh healers and tank, they can't just fix that, unless everyone goes to tank and healer instead. Or quits the game. How do you suppose they fix such a thing when player numbers are the cause?

The only other way is a very expensive process of adding way more slots in the data centers. But that still won't fix the number of DPS users vs other roles. and since DPS attract newer and players that don't like responsibility it's going to continue to be higher.