Inferno Totem drop rate

And then your next 5 runs will give you 1 totem to show for it.

It's just way too reliant on luck, if the Totems dropped 100% it would take 10 runs for someone to get an item that they could actually use, and if people want more than one it would take 10 more per weapon. As it is now someone could get lucky and just get every weapon in their first few runs and just invalidate the design of it that is screwing everyone over.

4 weapon drops in a run also doesn't mean anything if they can't use it/don't want to use that class.

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Originally Posted by ApplePie

Nice, can you tell me your secret?

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If i would know it lol. But seriously.. was also the highest amount we ever got. Before Patch we usually had from 0 to 2 or maybe/rarely 3, mostly 0 tho.

Maybe Karma? lol

These Items are not meant as a means by which to obtain your weapon. They are a fall back for players who have remarkably bad luck. The idea being that if you win 200 times and still dont have your Weapon you can just trade for it.

There is no reason for SE to hand you the best weapon in the game.

That kind of goes out the window when it's possible for you to get the weapon you need in one run.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

That kind of goes out the window when it's possible for you to get the weapon you need in one run.

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So having two terrible systems combined makes one good system? "You can't complain about the drop system because there's a token system! You can't complain about the token system because there's a drop system!" All we really need is one GOOD system (1-2 weapons per kill dropping to loot list).

I still say they should have scraped the weapons them self dropping all together and just gone with the tokens for weapons with those tokens being trade able in the bc. Possibly two tiers one that is enough for a weapon and the second more common one that takes multiples of.

It keeps people coming back to the fight for a while. People get the weapons they want when they hit the jackpot on the rng. If they are Done collecting weapons they can help out others by just sliding the token over to those in need if another pops up for them. Most importantly it removes that really crappy gut feeling you get when the item your friend really wants hits the floor.

Or forget the tokens all together and have the weapons go into the players loot pool to be sorted out while in the bc.

@Raikki:
I meant that you can't say that this current system makes getting a weapon appropriately difficult because for some people they will just get lucky and get what they need asap while others take tons of runs to get anything.

@ Griss: I would also prefer either/or instead of both.

This is retarded, after twenty wins post-patch and 70 wins pre-patch I have no weapon and no totems and no invites for Moogle primal because I don't have a god damn Ifrit's Bow.

Put the weapons into loot list. Solve everything.

Sigh, and here I was really hoping the totem system would be an improvement. Having 2 poor systems is not = 1 good system. Just either put the weapons in the loot list like every other thing in game and/or give us a higher drop rate of tokens. I never had any problems with the loot system in FFXI either, that would be fine with me. However I never really ran with random people, usually my LS.

I know 2.0 should fix this with a new system, but they already designed 2 poor systems so now I fear what the 2.0 system will be...