MNK 4.0 Changes . . . I'm not a fan tbh

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Originally Posted by Atmora

That's some reactionary bullshit right there, by that logic things like Bloodletter make bards dps completely RNG. Or saying WF Crits are what differentiate top MCHs.

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Compare a 150 potency attack with the second best attack of the monk with 320 (now 250) potency ! GG !

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Originally Posted by alex4815162342

Compare a 150 potency attack with the second best attack of the monk with 320 (now 250) potency ! GG !

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I mean there's a 420 potency randomly resetting skill in the expac too, there's currently a 200 potency skill that you have to win 2 50/50s to use as well. There is tons of RNG to this game and if anything it's raised the skill floor.

question about monk's new skill riddle of earth.
it says it grants you a buff (earth's reply) when you take damage while riddle of earth is active. and earth's reply's effect is damage reduction and greased lightning duration refresh.
my question is does this mean you have to get hit twice to get something out of it? once to activate earth's reply, then again to proc its benefits which is the damage reduction and buff refresh?
so you can't use it for boss' ultimate attack? the ones that is usually accompanied by fancy effects, mostly before their final phases.
if what i'm thinking is right, then it's very stupid design.

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Originally Posted by Chokee

question about monk's new skill riddle of earth.
it says it grants you a buff (earth's reply) when you take damage while riddle of earth is active. and earth's reply's effect is damage reduction and greased lightning duration refresh.
my question is does this mean you have to get hit twice to get something out of it? once to activate earth's reply, then again to proc its benefits which is the damage reduction and buff refresh?
so you can't use it for boss' ultimate attack? the ones that is usually accompanied by fancy effects, mostly before their final phases.
if what i'm thinking is right, then it's very stupid design.

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At present, that is correct. It seems designed not to be usable against raid damage unless occurring in successive waves. I'd wager that it's existence means that such designs are even less likely now, though.

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Originally Posted by alex4815162342

Compare a 150 potency attack with the second best attack of the monk with 320 (now 250) potency ! GG !

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Because that 150 potency skill fires more than once per battle...

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Originally Posted by alex4815162342

Compare a 150 potency attack with the second best attack of the monk with 320 (now 250) potency ! GG !

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thing to take into account(imo) now, is how we'll have to play into two phase I think, the regular one fast passed and positional.

and our burst which is brotherhood+riddle of fire we'll be busy firing those forbidden chakra to the point we'll barely be able to use positional, I think.

and I bet the extension of GL to two sec and Riddle of earth is here to prevent it from falling.
I mean, in a raid team there's usually another melee, a ranged dps brd or mch, you, and the two tanks so yeah 5 person and 30% per weapon skill to get a chakra over 15 sec.

I think it's gonna fill in pretty fast. (then again potency and whatnot have yet to be seen, game isn't out nothing is set in stone, yet.)

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Originally Posted by DatPotato

I mean, in a raid team there's usually another melee, a ranged dps brd or mch, you, and the two tanks so yeah 5 person and 30% per weapon skill to get a chakra over 15 sec.

I think it's gonna fill in pretty fast. (then again potency and whatnot have yet to be seen, game isn't out nothing is set in stone, yet.)

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How much Chakra exactly do you think you are going to get during the 15 seconds of brotherhood? it's a 30% proc chance on weapon skills used by people within 15y of you. Assuming your party is all melee and 2 tanks for the best possible situation with an average recast time of lets say 2.25(which is super generous) seconds lets say generously(very) during that 15 seconds all 5 of your party members use 7 weapon skills for a total of 35 weapon skills on average you'll get 10 chakra or 2 forbidden chakras in a 15 second period.

And the potency of The forbidden chakra is known it is been taken down from 320 to 250.

Im not entirely sure of the reasoning behind lowering the cooldown of Tornado kick, unless the function has changed somehow. I might use it maybe a max of 3 times depend on the encounter and only if i know i can get my Gl3 refreshed.

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Originally Posted by alex4815162342

We lost touch of death but keep some useless skill !

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Pretty much every job that had a 30 sec DoT lost it. Mutilate, Phlebotomize, Scourge, Fracture are all gone.

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Originally Posted by Vallhallix

BLM got nerfed? because to me it seems like they got nothing but buffs and skills to make life easier on them during mechanics, and a cross class skill to restore mana when they have unlimited mana lol, meanwhile the classes that actually need the mana got their mana restoration skills nerfed. BRD seems to be improved as well.

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Fire 2, Fire 4 and Blizzard 4 were all reduced by 20 base potency (36 at Astral 3 for F2 and F4). Flare AoE scaling changed, which is a nerf, unless you hit six or more mobs.