New Relic 260 Quest: Details

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Originally Posted by Yuuta-Is-Here

Nevermind you're right!
But I still think Relics are not that worth it when you can see how easily you can get a Lv260/270 weapon with Tomestones '3'

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Meh, with tomes that'll delay your tome gear and gearing other jobs. And if you just play regularly you'll easily get the anima weapon while it's relevant so no real reason to not start it.

Also some tome weapons are terrible.

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Originally Posted by Lisotte

Meh, with tomes that'll delay your tome gear and gearing other jobs. And if you just play regularly you'll easily get the anima weapon while it's relevant so no real reason to not start it.

Also some tome weapons are terrible.

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... I guess. <.>

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

because they want to use it before their next raid. i can wait a week too.

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Considering creator savage isn't super bad.... I'm on a11s right now... I can wait too xD

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Originally Posted by Yuuta-Is-Here

But I still think Relics are not that worth it when you can see how easily you can get a Lv260/270 weapon with Tomestones '3'

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Except the relic has customizable stats, so you don't have to worry about SE giving you some awful secondaries.

Already at 31/50. Glad I capped, and never spent my esoterics. They've become pretty predictable with this relic. I only had to put in at most, 1 hour of work for that weekly. Should be done tomorrow. Hopefully the next step is harder, or requires more than grind out X amount of tomes. Most of these steps can easily be finished in 10 days tops casually, even before the nerfs.

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Originally Posted by Laerad3993

Already at 31/50. Glad I capped, and never spent my esoterics. They've become pretty predictable with this relic. I only had to put in at most, 1 hour of work for that weekly. Should be done tomorrow. Hopefully the next step is harder, or requires more than grind out X amount of tomes. Most of these steps can easily be finished in 10 days tops casually, even before the nerfs.

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Not everyone is a hardcore casual like you. It took me 3 months to get my ast relic done or so.... and 1 whole month each for both 240's I have..... with bonuses. It takes a crazy long time so i'm not sure why you are considering this easy.

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Originally Posted by Lunafreya

Not everyone is a hardcore casual like you. It took me 3 months to get my ast relic done or so.... and 1 whole month each for both 240's I have..... with bonuses.

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I don't consider myself either hardcore or a casual. But thanks for the label.

The steps aren't hard, and unless you're playing less than 2 hours a day, shouldn't take months of time to complete. As it stands, if you did what I did, which I know plenty of people who DO cap before a relic step, you're left with 8 hours. Doing the weekly, daily, and turning in tomes puts you at half. If 8 hours of grinding tomes is considered hardcore/casual or whatever you're trying to peg me as, then more power to you. The ONLY step I would consider frustrating out of this relic, would have been the unidentifiable step.

I work, am married, and I still don't think it's hard, nor time consuming.

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Originally Posted by Laerad3993

I don't consider myself either hardcore or a casual. But thanks for the label.

The steps aren't hard, and unless you're playing less than 2 hours a day, shouldn't take months of time to complete. As it stands, if you did what I did, which I know plenty of people who DO cap before a relic step, you're left with 8 hours. Doing the weekly, daily, and turning in tomes puts you at half. If 8 hours of grinding tomes is considered hardcore/casual or whatever you're trying to peg me as, then more power to you. The ONLY step I would consider frustrating out of this relic, would have been the unidentifiable step.

I work, am married, and I still don't think it's hard, nor time consuming.

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I am talking about the relic as a whole and you said each step can be done in 10 days top "casually" before nerfs. This is simply not true unless you play everyday for 12 hours straight. I am not complaining about the new step. The new step is ridiculously easy. It doesn't take 10 days to get 80 umbrite.

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Originally Posted by Lunafreya

I am talking about the relic as a whole and you said each step can be done in 10 days top "casually" before nerfs. This is simply not true unless you play everyday for 12 hours straight. I am not complaining about the new step. The new step is ridiculously easy. It doesn't take 10 days to get 80 umbrite.

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Yes, the relic as a whole.

It didn't take 10 days before nerfs either, it took 7-8 if you had a headstart.

It simply is true, seeing how I and many others can't afford to play 12 hours a day, and still did it by preparing tomes, and having enough gil for buyouts of required items. Heck, I was even on after most often battle and field demis were mass bought out and I still got all my sands day 1. The umbrite step was a joke, because grinding tomes is not difficult, or time consuming, with how many they throw at you. Maybe it is your server, but mine had PF groups up for bonuses constantly for content which made the process extremely easy.

If you did umbrite day 1, in 10 days that took 7.2 hours a day, and that's without the capped 2k tomes before the patch hit. So, it WAS doable. Clearing anti tower in 15-18 minutes per run. I tanked, and dpsed. :) That is also NOT taking into account doing all your roulette for tomes and getting bonus from new people which dramatically reduced times.

this step is a very nice change of breath after the long umbrite farming. I'll be already more than halfway done after doing my 3rd levelling roulette tomorrow

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

I hate to break it to you, but relic weapons are not, and never have been, intended for casual players, and not once have the devs claimed that they were intended to be. The grinds involved are far more than anyone who calls themselves casual can consider doing, and I don't think that's likely to change.

No, the casual endgame weapons in this game are, and always have been, the Tomestone weapons. The two other endgame weapons, relic and raid, are both intended for non-casual players - just by different flavors of non-casual.

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There was a gamescon interview (from the French site Finaland I think) were Yoshi quite literally called the relic weapons an alternative for those who just suck too much at the game to get the other options. So, yeah