Let me answer your question with a question, why can't we have the same rewards and the ability to force success? The Tails content is clearly done to get us to run a variety of content, I think you and I can agree on that. Why not have the tiers of rewards based on how many you complete overall rather than this layer of RNG that could theoretically net you nothing even if you do everything it asks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yallaid
Everyone has DRG and tank body as Tails reward?
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10-05-2016, 12:54 AMKhalithar
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10-05-2016, 01:02 AMSessionZeroBecause the content it asks you to do isn't that hard. If the rewards were guaranteed just based on completion everyone would have the three line reward. The whole point is that you go back and do some old, easy content for a chance at some pretty decent goodies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khalithar
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10-05-2016, 01:08 AMSendohJinIt takes 4 Shafts from Creator Normal to get a body piece that's inferior to the one offered from 3 Lines of Tails. It cost multiple millions of gil on my server to get an inferior HQ crafted piece. You have to win Mini-cactpot 10x to get the equivalent of the 2 Line Reward. To be remotely equal in terms of effort, they would probably have to double/triple the amount of tasks and remove the ability to complete them undersized. With undersized enabled, my FC can clear everything besides PvP and the 24 man stuff in around 3-4 hours (and that's mostly only because the Lv 60 dungeons and PotD takes awhile).Quote:
Originally Posted by Khalithar
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10-05-2016, 01:13 AMAlistaireYou know to be honest, these rewards are nowhere near as valuable as they seem. Especially the battle pieces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yallaid
To start off, they're only body pieces and some of those aren't even as good as the alex normal pieces, even with 5 tier 5's.
In cases where they're better, you're talking about 3 extra slots. Unless you're going to put tier 5's in them, the chances of those 3 overmelds are 29%, 16%, 10%. Not that significant using tier 4 materia.
Also, being a body piece, several jobs are much better off opting for tome body before legs, and they'll be getting those this week.
If the crafted piece is going for roughly 5m, these ornate battle job pieces should be no more than 10, and even that's pushing it.
For the crafted pieces only body would ever consider overmelding a tier 5. If we'd gotten the option for belts they'd be more significant because of the base 1 materia slot on the normal gear.
tl;dr these rewards are bad and homogenizing them just makes it worse. Do this content for the 1-2 line rewards and don't get too excited if you get 3, it's really not that big of a deal. -
10-05-2016, 01:29 AMYallaid
i really wish they'd allow us to force the RNG for tails and at the same time not allow unsync clears -- that way we'd have people actually completing challenging content or they can grind 2nd chances to skip things like synced Bahamut Coils, and at the same time I think the required effort might enough that SE would let the current rewards stay in place.
I also agree that the 3 line rewards, outside the inevitable crafter/gatherer drops, aren't all that great. I do think they work well since it can throw-off the optimal Scripture spending schedule that people always follow though, since you might get a wondrous tales chest and decide to skip spending tomes to replace it right away. -
10-05-2016, 01:35 AMAlistaire
If you didn't allow unsync clears this wouldn't even be worth doing for the 1-line rewards.
Oh, and meant to mention in the last post, the "value" of these ornate DoW/M bodies is just the stat difference between 5x V materia vs 2x V + 3x IV, which is at most, the value of 9 crit, or 18 det for any piece that has crit maxed. So most of the value is honestly in the fact it's a crafted 250 you didn't have to make yourself.