Please hire GM Wardens that can suspend and ban bots

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Originally Posted by grandm

when i'm crafting i try to rush through it as fast as i can, partly coz its boring partly coz its when i use facilities i want to get my gils worth for the hour. if i look like a botter i'm sorry but i am not. talk to me i will talk back. but the amount of times i have seen some1 lv up, and i have said "gratz" but then been ignored makes me think thats a bot

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you obviously dont know what facilities do, no offense
but they only are used as "training" just liks training manuals for dated synths that require them

it has been acknowledged several times that they DO NOT make the synth easier, but if you dont have it and the synth says you need it, it makes the synth harder not to have it(if not imposible)

they are adding ways for the support to matter in the future

Guess you never got the memo that nobody likes a rat. If someone is botting it will catch up to them eventually it almost always does because people don't know when to quit.

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Originally Posted by Fieros

Well, the one I saw had no bait/lure equipped and repeatedly was casting and putting away his rod for the 5 minutes I watched.

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Yeah and? Many of us have done that before lol, after you have fished as much as some of us have in this game you tend to watch tv/movies as your gathering items. I have spent a good 10-15 minutes just not realizing I had run out of live bait on many occasions.

The reason all these people you THINK are bots are not being banned are because the majority of them are not bots and you are just instantly going omfg bot bot bot bot bot.

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Originally Posted by Wynn

Take screenshots and report it here: http://support.na.square-enix.com/co...02&la=1#bottom

It is not SE's fault if people aren't willing to follow the correct process to report someone cheating.

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Actually is is SE's fault 100%. They creating a cumbersome reporting system that no one wants to use. Nearly every other MMO lets you direct report through game, I am not going to a separate website to report people I think are cheating, its not worth my time and for those people who play full screen in a massive hassle.

Also claiming someone is a bot just because they didn't reply to your message is lame. There are plenty of reasons why that person made not have responded, not the least of which is the horrible system for trying to type/craft/gather at the same time. Remove the status bar and just let us craft and afk for a sec mid craft without the lame unneeded timer bar and you will see a large increase in chatter. But then again, I will likely still watch movies/tv when I am crafting and gathering, just because I enjoy doing so. This is a typical craft session for me and many other players. When I am crafting I want to be left alone to relax, when I want to interact with all the players ingame I join a DOW/M group.

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Originally Posted by Antipika

No reason for you to see one, they are invisible and probably never show themselves up. There are little to no reason for GMs to be visible outside their jail on XIV. Most of violations aren't related to griefing/MPK/holding like it used to be on XI.

And I'd seriously like to know how it could be worse with add-ons. Protip : anyone who wants to bot can bot on XIV. Add-ons allowed or not. It's been like that since day one, people were even cheating on the beta... We already suffered enough on XI because of that "no add on / no windowed mode" policy. Policy which didn't help a bit at fighting cheaters, as everyone was using bots to claim NM/HNMs...

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Requoted in-case you missed it.

"They move in union ... draw weapons at same time ... cycle through targets and then in union move to the next spot. If I claim a mob, the bots still will run over and shoot my claim"

Do you see the problem? Bots are NOT invisible. Frankly anything you said after that is bs. We're talking about botters here.

There is reason to see one. The reason is that with the current recourse players have to deal with botters are to file a complaint outside of the program.

If they had GMs that came in-game and witnessed bot activity, otheres would see them and potentially be deterred from botting. Are you going to steal with a policeman around? I'm not saying that they need GMs in every area or even on watch. It would just help if someone saw them taking an interest and having the ability to take action.

Square Enix is planning on changing the code to allow add-ons or they are planning on sharing the code to allow programmers to develop add-ons. In no way have I stated or implied that add-ons will be bad for the game. I merely stated that botting will be worse when there are allowed add-ons. Can you categorically say that it won't?

Whether people can or cannot bot now is not in question. Of course they can bot now because this thread is about botting.

I am simply proposing a way to make things better.

Did you ever see a GM at an HNM camp? No, because they had no authority and that wasn't how SE responded to botting.

FFXIV is new. They are listening to our concerns. Please try to make things better and have an open mind.

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Originally Posted by Zoltan

It's easy to spot a bot.

To quote an annymous friend who spotted them:

"They move in union ... draw weapons at same time ... cycle through targets and then in union move to the next spot. If I claim a mob, the bots still will run over and shoot my claim"

If they have the same character model and gear or are always in the same area 24/7.

Bots are easy to spot.

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what you are talking about is people multi boxing and it is not against the tos honestly. the moving in unison and pulling weapons at the same time is more likely someone multi boxing and using a controller to control all the characters at the same time. that is not against the tos btw.

I didn't know that you could set up one controller to run multiple pcs.

If that's the case, then it could be legitimate.

Why would they attack someone else's claimed mobs if they were not going to get any XP or loot?

I witnessed a player in Cassiopiea Hollow that was there for 2 days. When our XP group claimed a mob near them, they would attack that mob and kill it. They would get no XP or loot. They were moving at walking speed in a pattern that most real players do not move. It sure looked like a bot.

I'm just saying that it would be nice if SE could investigate those cases in-game rather than filing an form offline.

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Originally Posted by Zoltan

I didn't know that you could set up one controller to run multiple pcs.

If that's the case, then it could be legitimate.

Why would they attack someone else's claimed mobs if they were not going to get any XP or loot?

I witnessed a player in Cassiopiea Hollow that was there for 2 days. When our XP group claimed a mob near them, they would attack that mob and kill it. They would get no XP or loot. They were moving at walking speed in a pattern that most real players do not move. It sure looked like a bot.

I'm just saying that it would be nice if SE could investigate those cases in-game rather than filing an form offline.

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oh i wasn't saying all of it was legal, but was saying that some of it could be. i can run 3 computers off my main one now and use the same controller for all, but after adons are allowed you also have to think about people using things like sandboxing. that allows you to use multiple games on the same computer and that does allow you to control them all. that is illegal now though because it is a 3rd party program.

i do agree though that we should have an in game way to report suspicious activity in game, but worry more about certain people that would just report the same people over and over out of pure spite. i think the good of adding it outweighs the bad of those false reports though.

You gotta think that they would be able to track players complaints and take action against them for making repeated false claims. It's not that difficult.

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Originally Posted by Zoltan

It's more about Disciples of War and Magic than crafting.

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Well then my panic attack was unjustified :P I suppose I've just come to assume the focus of every botting thread is in relation to crafting/gathering. Over here on Gysahl we just have your lalafell trains, I have maybe ran into ONE combat bot. And I wouldn't even worry about that person because it took them roughly 36hrs to go from 26 to 29 lol. If there were rampant bots killing up all the lv1 sheep to sell the skins then I suppose that would warrant an outcry. I've never been on Bodhum though so I don't know how much of an issue it is there, I just know its hardly even an issue on Gysahl.