Why are ranged using LB so much now?

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

You forgot last set of balls on Ultima HM, back in i90 days.

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Minstrels Ballad? never seen it used in that fight 0.o

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Minstrels Ballad? never seen it used in that fight 0.o

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If you didn't use the tank LB in that fight, you were p much dead.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

If you didn't use the tank LB in that fight, you were p much dead.

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It's possible I did it after that was necessary gear wise. I can't recall when i did it, but it was probably around patch 2.3

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Well you must be doing something wrong because there aren't always melee in my parties and I use mine whenever I have the opportunity. I use it when appropriate and I'll be the first to agree that it's annoying when a melee just sits on their LB and doesn't use it when I'm sitting back waiting on them. I often lament however just how weak our ranged limit break is especially against a boss.

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I don't like to rock the boat and upset a party by using ranged LB3 mostly~ some people get very upset if you use it because "the DRG was going to use it!" etc.

If there's no melee in the party though I'll wait for the SMN or BRD to go since they should have a chance to see theirs as well before I use it. BLM though? Nah.

I only use my LB as a summoner/bard if the melee has sat on LB for the entire dungeon and seems like they have no intent to use it at all for gods know why. At that point, I'm going to use my LB just so the damage doesn't go to waste. Even if the damage is lower on summoner than it'd be from a melee, it's still damage.

What I want to know is why are so many melee never using LB anymore, no matter how long people wait for them to or how many times someone says "LB!!!" It's been like this since Heavensward dropped and it's frustrating as all heck on a non-melee. >>

I like to see other classes LBs so in inconsequential content, I'm happy to see others use it.

As a MNK, I try to just hit my GL refresh, so I can LB and not lose stacks. Typically in those 5-6 seconds to do that, after the bar hits 3, someone else LBs. Again I don't care b/c others have nicer looking LBs.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

It was required in teraflare. Potential usability is still nice - as it is a defensive buff.

Personally, I'd rather see Limit breaks reworked entirely.

1. Everyone gets their own bar
2. Potencies reduced on damage
3. Animation time reduced
4. Healers 3x bar doesn't apply max weakness, but takes a long time to fill up compared to tanks/dps
5. Tanks LB applies a defensive buff to them-self only and provokes everything in the arena + generates a lot of threat

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I like the idea and i really want personal LBs but for the Tanks your idea could be problematic.

1st Because it doesnt protect the entire group and secondly the "provoke everything and do alot of threat" ability could go really wrong in fights designed with more than one boss or mobs with particular mechanics a single Tank cant handle.
Like bismarck snakes for example, Thordan knights or Seph Ex adds... You get the point.

I'm pretty much in the same boat as the other dudes. It looks nice, so I used it to see the thing. I've been through so many lb3s in raid at this point that using it lost its luster by 3.15 though :P.
I'll only use lbs if melee demonstrate that they don't want to bother using it or it can speed up a boss (anti tower's second and third boss benefit from this)

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

I like the idea and i really want personal LBs but for the Tanks your idea could be problematic.

1st Because it doesnt protect the entire group and secondly the "provoke everything and do alot of threat" ability could go really wrong in fights designed with more than one boss or mobs with particular mechanics a single Tank cant handle.
Like bismarck snakes for example, Thordan knights or Seph Ex adds... You get the point.

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That's true, I would just assume that you'd need to time your LB accordingly then. I am picturing - what if a tank dies? Now he has no threat, weakness etc - Pops his LB and boom has all the threat and protection for a bit.

'cuz they need attention and want to look cool *rolls eyes*

its ok unless there's a competent melee dps in a content that need a quick damage burst to clear, otherwise let any dps do it... and laugh that ranged dps misses target cuz boss moved (or was moved by the tank) outside the AoE line, wasting a LB