Really tired of the inventory excuses.

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Originally Posted by Gyson

Are you referring to the Guild Wars 2 that has a separate storage system set aside for holding every single crafting component available, every single minion-pet available, and a glamour system based on locks/unlocks that eliminates the need for long-term glamour storage on equipment and dyes?

Oh, and it also happens to be free-to-play and not require a subscription fee every month? AND lets you exchange mail between characters for additional storage space?

That GW2?

Yeah, I'm shaking my head every time I compare the two. Probably not for the same reasons as you, though. :P

Don't get me wrong.. I love FFXIV but this is one area they fail horribly at. And it's pretty insulting that all the storage-related-hurdles seem to become non-issues so long as players are willing to pay an additional $2 per retainer per month.

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Oh, GW2, the game that has a forced Account Bank that has bugger all space, requires you to buy/make bags in addition to needing to spend 5 dollars or thereabouts to be allowed to increase the banks slots available by 4 - 16?
Not to mention that weapons and gear take up standard inventory slots, limited to 5 bag expansions that are also based on how big the bag is that you put in it.

The only thing GW2 did right was the dedicated crafting component storage.
Well, that and the style unlocks for Glamour, XIV needs that.

Tip, GW2 is not free to play. Its buy to play. Then buy to play the story. Then buy inventory space. Then buy costumes (that are broken as hell, why does my human warrior no longer have feet?). Also needing to buy character slots for 10 bucks a pop. (You only get like 5 free ones)
And then the real kicker, you have to pay real money for the equivalent to our Glamour Prisms.

So uh, lets not be using GW2 as a shining example of MMO-kind. It has some good ideas (which SE should totally stea-- i mean borrow), and some very VERY bad ones.

PS: It also costs real money just to change your hair color.

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Originally Posted by Sylve

Oh, GW2, the game that has a forced Account Bank that has bugger all space, requires you to buy/make bags in addition to needing to spend 5 dollars or thereabouts to be allowed to increase the banks slots available by 4 - 16?

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Buying/making bags using in-game resources is nothing new, MMO-wise. I would suggest not being able to increase our storage space through in-game means is a more odd (and worse) direction to take. Sure enough, FFXIV took it.

Spending real money for a permanent space increase is a whole lot better than renting a temporary space increase every month, the latter being the route FFXIV has taken. And, keep in mind, FFXIV already has us paying a monthly subscription fee in addition to requiring a (repeated) cash shop purchase for extra storage, where as GW2 has paired its cash-shop purchase with an otherwise free-to-play setup. Yet another point in GW2's favor.

Finally, spending real money in GW2's cash-shop is optional. And I don't mean "you don't have to use the cash-shop" kind of optional, I mean the cash-shop currency is "gems", which can either be purchased with real-money or purchased with in-game gold. In reality you do not have to spend any real-money for anything other than the initial purchase of the game (even if you make use of the cash shop).

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Originally Posted by Sylve

Also needing to buy character slots for 10 bucks a pop. (You only get like 5 free ones)

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Yes, and you only get 1 character slot in FFXIV unless you're willing to pay an extra fee *every month*, where as GW2 gives you 5, with the option of buying additional slots for a *one time* fee (which, again, is purchased with gems that can be bought with in-game gold). I'm not sure what your point was here, but it's another area where FFXIV does worse.

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Originally Posted by Sylve

And then the real kicker, you have to pay real money for the equivalent to our Glamour Prisms.

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Trasmutation Charges can be earned with through in-game means, or payed with for gems (which, once again, can be earned through in-game gold).

Actually, the normal fee gets you 8 characters per server, up to 40, in XIV.

The Basic fee is something not done in most MMOs, so even if you only wanted to play 1 character, you still have to pay the 14.99 a month.

The third one by now should be free.

What I don't understand is how they say they have to do all this stuff and there is no way to make more space at the moment..okay I WOULD understand but what do you call the paid retainers? Pretty sure that is space...they're just charging for it..

So it's there, they just don't want to give it to everyone...or so it seems.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

Oh yeah? Name one MMO with as many crafting items as FFXIV. Just one. Just one! Come on, can't be that hard.


Inventory and the amounts you require is reliant on the amount of items you are liable to use or have. In FFXIV the amount of items is far larger then for most other MMOs.



Also the armoury system is a double-edged pizzacutter. Who actually has 25 bracelets to store? Yet 25 are too few spots for chest items, or main hand tools.

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Properly gearing out even just a few jobs like BLM, SMN, RDM, NIN AND trying to actively craft and HELM was a logistical nightmare--and you only needed extra tools for gathering and not seperate gear sets.

Just toting gears for your adventuring jobs would force you to hit up a moogle or room just to change jobs. Not just because of the job change function, but because of the gear exchanges. And don't forget things like ammo if your job used them, and NIN tools--you needed some on hand even if you were using /NIN. Could frequently find yourself swapping out your entire inventory just to change jobs.


And let us not forget the crafting materials...8 varieties of both crystals and clusters that took up inventory slots in addition to your mats and end products as well as additional items if you wanted to bundle your stacks if making ammo/tools. During heavy crafting/gathering sessions you might find yourself dumping gear into storage to make room for gathering/synching.

You know what...it actually was pretty easy to find something far worse than XIV's design.

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See these players who have taken it too far by having 8 full retainers and no inventory space.

"Grungurm why do you have 4 retainers full of old armor?"

"Albert you have a retainer just for dye and dye ingredients?"

"Shawna i know you are the fashsion deva but 6 retainers dedicated to glam gear?"

Hoarding, hoarding, Hoarding. learn to micromanage your inventory. you should feel blessed to have as much as you do.

FFXI New game: 30 inventory, 50 MogSafe
70 slots
FFXIV New game: 100 inventory, 2 retainers 250, Armory 25 x 12 300.
650+ slots

Quit your damn complaining. there are so many other games out there with less inventory space. be glad you get this much

A glamour compendium would be amazing.

Just to keep the skin of all the gear you have ever got, not a physical ID on your inventory, but an image on your glamour menu. Just like GW2 does (best vanity system ever), could even be asociated with achievements like getting all maiming, striking, fending, etc, gears of a certain raid/dungeon, etc.

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Originally Posted by Bovinity

It's strange to me to see complaints about inventory space in FFXIV when pretty much every other MMO is worse about it. What the heck are people doing to use up all this space? :D

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Well in other MMOs, you get regular expansions to inventory without being asked to pay more for an increasingly expensive sub addition...

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Originally Posted by Deifact

Basically loads of items could be shifted from our inventory onto character sheets (like currency is right now). Like why don't vanity items just occupy a "wardrobe" character tab or something?

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My god I would love this so much. Just look at Rift, GW2, or WildStar for some awesome space-saving ideas in cosmetics. @_@ Far better systems overall, too.

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Originally Posted by Cyrusskorrey

HOARDERS FINAL FANTASY 14 addition, catch it new this fall on LOE on Channel 322!!

See these players who have taken it too far by having 8 full retainers and no inventory space.

"Grungurm why do you have 4 retainers full of old armor?"

"Albert you have a retainer just for dye and dye ingredients?"

"Shawna i know you are the fashsion deva but 6 retainers dedicated to glam gear?"

Hoarding, hoarding, Hoarding. learn to micromanage your inventory. you should feel blessed to have as much as you do.

FFXI New game: 30 inventory, 50 MogSafe
70 slots
FFXIV New game: 100 inventory, 2 retainers 250, Armory 25 x 12 300.
650+ slots

Quit your damn complaining. there are so many other games out there with less inventory space. be glad you get this much

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There's always someone who will defend something no matter how obviously bad it is.

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Originally Posted by Cyrusskorrey

Hoarding, hoarding, Hoarding. learn to micromanage your inventory. you should feel blessed to have as much as you do.

Quit your damn complaining. there are so many other games out there with less inventory space. be glad you get this much

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Other games having less inventory space has nothing to do with with this game having more. :B