On the lack of humanity in our community.

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Originally Posted by CrimsonThunder

I find it hilarious how much people scream to not take the game seriously and then proceed to run hardcore statics, number crunches, extreme gear checks and usually immense screening bordering on paranoid elitism.....for a coffer.


For those of you faulting the OP for getting emotional, have you ever had a similar experience and took it better? Back up your statements before you take a moral high ground.

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Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

I did my fair share of hardcore raiding which included all that you said combined with other stuff like making strategies. However those were part of the game for me and never taken anything more.

When you use terms like "losing part of my humanity" it is a red alert that you need to stop cause it effects you on more then just ingame.

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Originally Posted by Assirra

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

I did my fair share of hardcore raiding which included all that you said combined with other stuff like making strategies. However those were part of the game for me and never taken anything more.

When you use terms like "losing part of my humanity" it is a red alert that you need to stop cause it effects you on more then just ingame.

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Did you get some emotions out of Heurchefant (cant spell that name) story ? if yes, who are you to make such a comment and point fingers at those that let themselves to be dragged into the game too much? remember that if you can feel something for your char you are too taking it beyond the in-game....we all did that really at one point...ergo why people need to have the understanding that what they feel as a char is not to be transposed into real life, or taken with into real life, which is the most difficult part to do...we are all human, and OP is right, in this game because of anonimity people make it a point to be all but human they forgot they are human really.

Mei

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

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Your example is something completely different then what this topic is based on about. Becoming emotional because of the story in game is no way negative unless you start being depressed when a character dies of course. Once again, if you do get depressed from playing a game because of x or y reason, just stop. You are not doing yourself a favor to keep going.

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Originally Posted by Assirra

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

I did my fair share of hardcore raiding which included all that you said combined with other stuff like making strategies. However those were part of the game for me and never taken anything more.

When you use terms like "losing part of my humanity" it is a red alert that you need to stop cause it effects you on more then just ingame.

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When the game involves a community of people, along with talking heads, that's where that line gets blurred, especially when you find yourself either the outsider or fearing becoming the outsider.


It sounds easy to just find another static, fc, community, or linkshell, but for some people it isn't. Sometimes they saw friends on the other side of that achievement fence. Sometimes they've lost friends trying to get over it to be with them.

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

Did you get some emotions out of Heurchefant (cant spell that name) story ? if yes, who are you to make such a comment and point fingers at those that let themselves to be dragged into the game too much? remember that if you can feel something for your char you are too taking it beyond the in-game....we all did that really at one point...ergo why people need to have the understanding that what they feel as a char is not to be transposed into real life, or taken with into real life, which is the most difficult part to do...we are all human, and OP is right, in this game because of anonimity people make it a point to be all but human they forgot they are human really.

Mei

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There's quite a big difference between feeling something for your favorite character when something bad happens to them and the OP's rant where they decide to use phrases like "emotional genocide" because their static wouldn't let them play the class they wanted.

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

There's quite a big difference between feeling something for your favorite character when something bad happens to them and the OP's rant where they decide to use phrases like "emotional genocide" because their static wouldn't let them play the class they wanted.

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The need to accept the standard build, the insistence on watching the video, in this case: playing a job because the job you wanted is shunned? While they aren't the words i'd use, i do understand where they are coming from, with regards to high lvl play and the prevailing attitudes about and within.

I lost some friends and respected fc mates due to endgame raiding and statics lmao I realized how toxic it can be if you let it consume you.

I just said the hell with it and became a more causal raider, one thing I learned after giving up hardcore raiding is that it really doesn't matter getting a world first clear (outside of bragging rights), and just because you're causal doesn't mean your bad (I played with causal raiders who put hardcore raiders to shame).

If that means waiting for echo and nerfs to enjoy it with my non raiding friends so be it.

To OP I suffer major depression and anxiety and this game help distract me from my darker thoughts and emotions. Find a group of people who are willing to enjoy the game with you. It took me a bit to let this sink in. :D

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Originally Posted by Kallera

When the game involves a community of people, along with talking heads, that's where that line gets blurred, especially when you find yourself either the outsider or fearing becoming the outsider.


It sounds easy to just find another static, fc, community, or linkshell, but for some people it isn't. Sometimes they saw friends on the other side of that achievement fence. Sometimes they've lost friends trying to get over it to be with them.

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I never said anything like static,community, fc or linkshell.

I said to straight up quit the game. I am not kidding here, if you get depressed from playing a game STOP playing. You are only making it harder for yourself.

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Originally Posted by Yoshiyuki

The servers could be shut down tomorrow for some mysterious reason. That sense of superiority (or fighting back against the elites) would die with the game. Where would some of you be then? Forced to look in the mirror at the wasteland that is your life and your choices. That would be torture for you when it shouldn't be.
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I always say that to people who are so-in-game oriented about grind, MMO, it means people.. Now put all the grind into a game that is MMO but with you only playing alone.. can you survive? you have three roles you want 3 others to fill the space to do the simplest run, mind you require additional 4 for 8-players raid, and more 16 for a 24-players raid!

As OP, I only few people who are good, and they usually leave the game since they are already soaked with the negativity/creulity of players around them.

And for all the ugly faces I cannot add to what Oscar Wilde said:
"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." - Oscar Wilde

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

There's quite a big difference between feeling something for your favorite character when something bad happens to them and the OP's rant where they decide to use phrases like "emotional genocide" because their static wouldn't let them play the class they wanted.

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my example was meant to show that, from the moment you feel something that is in-game related and that your persona behind the screen can get involved into something as trivial as a NPC charactere death, then said person is capable of taking what others char albeit non NPC can say or do and feel it as a real person. That is why i took this example, tehre is no difference if you can feel for a NPC you can still feel equally for anotehr non NPC char, actions will affect you, what they say will affect or can affect you, and if it happens, then I am sorry you do take stuff ingame outside of what it is supposed to be. The person I aswered said in a short way that if peopel take real what is ingame they should go stop playing because that is not what it should be...

See my point....eh? so no I am not at all off topic.. might want to think about this comparison..just because you feel for a NPC doesnt make it less better or worse then for a *real* charactere eh? and the effect that it can have can be very destructive if not mature or ready enough to understand what where and how ...and distanciate themselves from their charactere, if you cant do that, you WILL be affected by ingame stuff as a real person and can go up to some huge extend, much like this of OP.

Mei