Astrologian IMO

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Originally Posted by Vlady

If you do your role well then that will not be an issue. If they force you to change job based on healer forum drama then maybe the static is not meant for you. I would find friends that do not try to force you to change jobs if you do not want. I see statics recruiting on balmung chatter all the time for white/astro in case someone has the mind to think that astrologians are not wanted.

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Its not a "healer forum drama" its the obvious fact that AST is INDEED weaker.
How can you be so blind?
Are you being paid to say such amount of nonsense?
o_e

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Originally Posted by Muahbec

Its not a "healer forum drama" its the obvious fact that AST is INDEED weaker.
How can you be so blind?
Are you being paid to say such amount of nonsense?
o_e

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Actually I understand the white mage and scholare are stronger in there respective fields. My only beef is people say astrologian is so weak that the job is next to useless that is my issue when it is not the case. Yes we need some more changes and they will come. I just wish people would stop trying to outright falsify that the astrologian cannot do the job and do it well enough to hold its own.

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Originally Posted by Vlady

Actually I understand the white mage and scholare are stronger in there respective fields. My only beef is people say astrologian is so weak that the job is next to useless that is my issue when it is not the case. Yes we need some more changes and they will come. I just wish people would stop trying to outright falsify that the astrologian cannot do the job and do it well enough to hold its own.

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Most of the players agree that AST can do the content, but they have way too much trouble doing so, compared to his fellow healers.
Its not useless, it is just weak.
And as a player who loves AST i'm really looking forward to the changes and i hope they'll worth the wait.

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Originally Posted by Vlady

Actually I understand the white mage and scholare are stronger in there respective fields. My only beef is people say astrologian is so weak that the job is next to useless that is my issue when it is not the case. Yes we need some more changes and they will come. I just wish people would stop trying to outright falsify that the astrologian cannot do the job and do it well enough to hold its own as well as any other job.

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No one ever said astrologian is useless by itself. However when compared to other two healer, they are pretty useless(a.k.a no being used/wanted/respected/brought into savage), given that there are only room for two healers.


Something that i feared will happen to astrologian is already happening, that everyone, healer or not, has the opinion that Astrologian is utter trash.
The other night i was helping a friend run Sohm Al, on the T-Rex boss i informed the one of the dps that its okay for him to take some aoe damage, that i wont let him die. His response was "That might not be the case(keeping him alive) with an AST." I got quite bitter, bitter at SE for dumping AST into such trash pile that even in a level 53 dungeon I was called an incapable healer (I did not let anyone die in that Sohm Al run). I imagine even after buffs and fixes, it will take quite a while to change community's opinion about Astrologian.

The only thing I am bitter is the bad word that people themselves are spreading. Astrologian should never have an issue in itleast dungeons if the person playing the job is even half way decent. The White mage/scholar duo is more popular because it is something people are comfortable with from ARR days and provide more wiggle room for error. Astro does have less error correcting abilities which is what cooldowns are generally for which I hope we get cooldown revamps to two of our abilities.

I guess being in a static with my real life family does provide me some shelter against the preferred team that people want of white mage and scholar but we have gotten A1 Savage down to 20% last raid night and I am 100% sure we would have won by now if not for us only raiding 5-6 hours a week from limited schedule.

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Originally Posted by Vlady

I am not all sure if astro's will be touched upon much. It took a year and half for summoner to get changed into the power house it is today.

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Just ignore Vlady he just an annoyance with no meaning........ But on my server in PF all healers slots are only for WHM/SCH and it is spreading fast....u would have the odd few with any healer but majority do not want an AST.... which is causing an issue.... So i have to ask my fc to do things on my AST because of this,,,,, which is depressing... and i love this job sooo much

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Originally Posted by Yhisa

Just ignore Vlady he just an annoyance with no meaning........ But on my server in PF all healers slots are only for WHM/SCH and it is spreading fast....u would have the odd few with any healer but majority do not want an AST.... which is causing an issue.... So i have to ask my fc to do things on my AST because of this,,,,, which is depressing... and i love this job sooo much

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Just ignore Yhisa or we can go down her road of white mage and scholar getting their job defining strengths pretty much neutered. Maybe take the initiative and form your own party? Sometimes leading can change more then following and coming on a thread demanding all jobs you dont play be nerfed.

Vlad, the fact that you have not even killed A1 savage down on ast is not helping your case. It's week 3. Lol.6 hours is plenty of raiding. You have put aprox 18 hours onto the first boss.


Please stop posting on the forums, your opinions are irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by Vlady

The only thing I am bitter is the bad word that people themselves are spreading. Astrologian should never have an issue in itleast dungeons if the person playing the job is even half way decent.

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I specifically said in the OP that AST can run 90% of the content without issue... this includes (ex primals, dungeons and normal ALEX). I think AST in savage is where the major drawbacks of the class are magnified. NO ONE on this thread is criticising AST unjustly for the sake of spreading hate.

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Originally Posted by DkDerek

Please stop posting on the forums, your opinions are irrelevant.

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He might not be correct in his opinions of the AST, but you're a major jerk (trying to be nice and not get forumbanned) who doesn't even have a 30 AST, nor a 60 healer of the other jobs. What are you doing here again?