Suggestion: Dark Knight Revamp (Yes I know another one)

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Originally Posted by Ditto

Riposte
Guarantees a parry on the next 2 incoming attacks. The second parry is at 50% of the parry strength of the first. Each parry immediately triggers a 100? potency counter attack.
//Vanquish Effect: Restores MP equivalent to the amount of damage each counter did.
//Grit Effect: Restores TP equivalent to the amount of damage each counter did.
30? Second Cooldown.

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Not gonna comment on the post as a whole plenty have.. But this is OP as all hell.

If things hit for 100 sure. but your talking about a skill that WOULD fill your TP or mana to full every 30 seconds. Ignoring the fact that the mana portion would be largely worthless due to needing to parry while in a dps stance.

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Originally Posted by Zarzak

Not gonna comment on the post as a whole plenty have.. But this is OP as all hell.

If things hit for 100 sure. but your talking about a skill that WOULD fill your TP or mana to full every 30 seconds. Ignoring the fact that the mana portion would be largely worthless due to needing to parry while in a dps stance.

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You might want to at least read the whole post then. Or at least just what is in bold. (It's bold for a reason)

Also, there is plenty of reason to tank outside of a tanking stance.

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Originally Posted by Ditto

You might want to at least read the whole post then. Or at least just what is in bold. (It's bold for a reason)

Also, there is plenty of reason to tank outside of a tanking stance.

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I did read the whole post. It says numbers are placeholders. I'm giving feedback that they need to be drastically reduced in the TP department and giving feedback that a ripo ability in an offensive stance is misplaced. Assuming the whole offensive stance idea went ahead make it a 2 hit offensive attack that restores MP similar to sipon. Makes far more sense.

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Originally Posted by Zarzak

I did read the whole post. It says numbers are placeholders. I'm giving feedback that they need to be drastically reduced in the TP department and giving feedback that a ripo ability in an offensive stance is misplaced. Assuming the whole offensive stance idea went ahead make it a 2 hit offensive attack that restores MP similar to sipon. Makes far more sense.

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I could see the TP becoming a problem if it's implemented like that, sure, and it'd probably really also lead to having some really unusual amounts of TP. A flat rate would probably be better. Yet at the same time though, I'm questioning if it'd be a good idea in general to have to rely on one of our on demand tank buster mitigation abilities to restore TP. It may be better suited somewhere else entirely.

And I'd be fine with that offensive version as well, I'd like it a lot better.

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Originally Posted by Ditto

I could see the TP becoming a problem if it's implemented like that, sure, and it'd probably really also lead to having some really unusual amounts of TP. A flat rate would probably be better. Yet at the same time though, I'm questioning if it'd be a good idea in general to have to rely on one of our on demand tank buster mitigation abilities to restore TP. It may be better suited somewhere else entirely.

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Eh... Assuming the fight has a tank buster it would likely be used enough to keep TP steady if it restored a couple hundred.

to be equal to invig it would restore 100 (400 every 120 so 100 every 30) but you could easily argue bumping it to 200/250 because DRK already have to handle MP as a resource so making TP a "easily managed resource" wouldn't remove resource management from the class.

Even if you had to hold onto it for a 50 sec reuse tank buster or something similar would be plenty to keep you running.

A very easy fix to DRK would be to roll Reprisal's 10% dmg into Delirium. PLD has no CD on Rage of Halone and it reduces STR by 10% all Reprisal does is reduce Physical and Magical by 10%. This would allow both MT and OT's to use DRK's really good debuff without having some gimmicky parry to proc it. It would also cut ability bloat which is always a good thing. A potency nerf maybe needed on Delirium if it was added to it but no big deal there as you would only use it when debuff was falling off anyways. This change alone right there would give DRK a place in a raid no matter what. The DRK could essentially replace a PLD or WAR at that point due to being able to keep there debuff up reliably.

Soul Eater should be around 450-475 potency IMO and instead of healing give a shield for the amount healed. This would give mitigation rather than self healing which we all know self healing will never work on a tank due to having 16K hp and only healing for 1.5K every 6 seconds. Maybe if i'm getting hit for 1-2K every 2 seconds it would work but tank buster's hitting for 10-12K yea self healing is crap. Give me a shield that reduces that dmg by 1.5K or so and stacks with other shields works much better.

Outside of that I think the DRK is fine we just need to give it a place and telling us Magic Damage will be more prominent in raids doesn't work for me. Okay I have dark mind that reduces Magic Damage by 30% if I use dark arts Well guess what rampart does it to and is only 20 seconds longer on a cd. Granted rampart is 20% but still when you compare Dark Mind to Rampart it isn't much of a comparison.

I kind of like Soul Eater. I just think it should be removed from Dark Arts and have a higher potency. We have too many abilities for Dark Arts. The healing actually helps, an option to charge up the attack by holding it would be a great feature too, so you can swing as soon as you need that healing.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

I kind of like Soul Eater. I just think it should be removed from Dark Arts and have a higher potency. We have too many abilities for Dark Arts. The healing actually helps, an option to charge up the attack by holding it would be a great feature too, so you can swing as soon as you need that healing.

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I'd prefer if Soul Eater's DA not only gave us HP back, if it would also add a DoT that does damage to the enemy and gives us HP healing for exactly how much it's ticking for. Unsure if that's a weird idea or a bad idea, I'm just giving suggestions.

Both cases are asking for a bit much. I for one enjoy managing DRK's MP. The key issue here is making that management worth it.

I think one thing that could go a long way would be having DA SE add a shield on top of the heal (maybe cut back the actual heal a bit or something), similar to adloquium. That would give DRK a potent mitigation tool that it had previously been missing.

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Originally Posted by Kiteless

Both cases are asking for a bit much. I for one enjoy managing DRK's MP. The key issue here is making that management worth it.

I think one thing that could go a long way would be having DA SE add a shield on top of the heal (maybe cut back the actual heal a bit or something), similar to adloquium. That would give DRK a potent mitigation tool that it had previously been missing.

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I actually suggested this in an earlier post in the thread. Except apply it to damaging abilities that got buffed by DA. Hence dmg shield from AD as well but a weaker shield like 10% of dmg to be shielded