Neverreap vs. Fractal Continuum

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Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon

There have really only been two challenging 4-man dungeon boss fights on their release (at least in my opinion). These are the Teratotaur from The Sunken Temple of Qarn, and Symond the Unsinkable from Pharos Sirius.

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Not including Siren? There were plenty of wipes before Siren got nerfed.

I'm not sure. I don't have many problems myself with either and enjoy both. Although I have had more bad experiences at Fractal just because of (usually one DPS) ignoring mechanics. Just recently I had Dragoon that constantly ran into mines no matter how many times we told him he needs to avoid them. Couldnt heal through that. Eventually he left and we got a new dps but turns out the other dps' gear broke from all the wipes so we needed to abandon. Yep

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Originally Posted by Berethos

I actually tend to encounter more wipes in Neverreap, but it's not on the boss - it's almost always at that spot where there's the two packs of Vespa bee things and a treant. Tank, healer, or both overestimate that those can be dangerous for a pug and/or under geared group and end up pulling all five. Even had some groups fall apart there.

It's really the only trouble I've (luckily) encountered in either, so I'm pretty chill about both.

I suppose the music in Fractal is a bit more to my liking though, so if I have to chain run a place it would be that one.

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Stun > final sting. Only issues I've had in fractal are ppl not paying attention to spiders or landmines (avoiding them or not moving when one spawns on them)

I love fractal because it feels like a coil throw back. Between Fractal and The Facility it's like Binding Coil Practice mode.

As for Nevereach, It's on my "F- this dungeon" List along with Aurum Vale and Pre-Nerf Pharos Sirius.

Nevereach's mechanics are stupid and even the trash has a ridiculous amount of HP. I shouldn't have to be iLvl 180 to kill a frigging trash mob in a timely manner.

Fractal on the other hand, sure a few point can get kinda hairy, but even with it's "Scrub's guide to over pulling" mob rushes all of them die really quick even with minimum gear. And when you add in that the bosses are stupid easy to players who've been at this for a while (And last fractal boss' tiles are similar to T1 of Coil) then they are just fighting Mechanics that they've seen hundreds of times before with a couple of new twist that wont surprise us next time.

Necereach how ever seems like it was intentionally designed to be long and annoying for no good reason.

Is Facility actually in the roulette? It's certainly never popped for me, which is a shame - quite like that place too.

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Originally Posted by seekified

Is Facility actually in the roulette? It's certainly never popped for me, which is a shame - quite like that place too.

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Yea, Facility, Fractal, and Nevereach (The End) are the three EX dungeons. I've gotten it to cue three times now and wouldn't ya know it, Nevereach all three times. It's Pharos Sirius all over again.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

Yea, Facility, Fractal, and Nevereach (The End) are the three EX dungeons. I've gotten it to cue three times now and wouldn't ya know it, Nevereach all three times. It's Pharos Sirius all over again.

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Last week it was all Neverreach in my roulette but this week it's been mostly Fractal. Not a single Facility yet, but ah well. xD

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Originally Posted by Dinadan

Not including Siren? There were plenty of wipes before Siren got nerfed.

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Siren was bad too, but it just seemed like Symond would legitimately cause groups to quit where as most people stuck through a few Siren wipes.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

Yea, Facility, Fractal, and Nevereach (The End) are the three EX dungeons. I've gotten it to cue three times now and wouldn't ya know it, Nevereach all three times. It's Pharos Sirius all over again.

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Neverreap and The Fractal Continuum are the only dungeons listed on the Expert Duty Roulette. Far as I know, Facility isn't on any of the roulettes right now.

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Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon

Neverreap and The Fractal Continuum are the only dungeons listed on the Expert Duty Roulette. Far as I know, Facility isn't on any of the roulettes right now.

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The Facility IS listed on the EX roulet. It's just the 1/3 RNG chance of getting it

RNG is always the big F- All in rouletts and loot remember.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

The Facility IS listed on the EX roulet. It's just the 1/3 RNG chance of getting it

RNG is always the big F- All in rouletts and loot remember.

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It isn't listed on expert, on the patch notes you will see there is only two dungeons on expert roulette.