RIP Astrologian

SCH - 60% Barrier, 40% Cure 0% Regen
WHM - 0% Barrier, 60% Cure, 40% Regen
AST - 40% Barrier, 40% Cure, 0% Regen, 20% Cards

(Clearly, very rough/poor figures, don't represent actual; merely meant for future illustration)

Astrologian could easily be built to support either two healers effectively (w/o being too OP or UP) or to where duo-Astrologian comps are viable (w/o being too OP or UP).

I have to be up in 3 hours or I'd expound. But please put a little more argument rather than "rawr, impossibru to balance! OP!!"

It's doable, I'm sick of these blanket statements. Sure, my above point doesn't contribute anything yet either... but like I said, up in 3 hours. I'll edit this tomorrow with a hard argument with supporting points, whereas you guys aren't even acting like you'll provide some sort of legitimate credence to your arguments.

Make one fine point if you wish in the meantime, create some credibility. Just saying, 'bu-but if they can do both it'll be either too OP or too UP or won't work in certain comps' is not sufficient. I'll see you tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

OP, please give me your time machine so I can go back to a point where RIP used to mean something.

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When you're finished, may i borrow the time machine to go forward to where every ones already playing HW, and they're so sure about every new change and job?

I'll believe it when I see it in HW! :P

The stance change limitation doesn't bother me. The only thing I'm wondering about is what it's going to be like to always raise without swiftcast, I can't wait to find out. :p

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Originally Posted by AmalahRose

The stance change limitation doesn't bother me. The only thing I'm wondering about is what it's going to be like to always raise without swiftcast, I can't wait to find out. :p

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Just play with bad dps, gotta raise em all lol. Ultima hm, titan fights, anything with plumes xD

They r gonna be the bad asses of pvp healing i bet.
"Can only switch stance when not in battle "

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Originally Posted by Yuri_Hyuga

SCH - 60% Barrier, 40% Cure 0% Regen
WHM - 0% Barrier, 60% Cure, 40% Regen
AST - 40% Barrier, 40% Cure, 0% Regen, 20% Cards

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SCH has Whispering Dawn, WHM has traited Stoneskin and AST has hots packaged with heals in Diurnal.

Really fits Astrologian in my opinion. The Job is meant to predict the future, having to go into a fight locked into a stance means you have to try and do that yourself, think ahead and decide what will be better for the upcoming fight; mitigation or raw healing power.

Umm the referenced article notes AST gets skills from Arcanist and conjures but aren't there from Thm/wht? Maybe the article is not accurate about stance dance as well- http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125...vent-5-18-5-21

I can see a reason why SE wouldn't allow changing between barrier and pure healing stance on the fly mid-combat.

It could more or less completely remove the point to both SCH and WHM due to the amount of flexibility. Of course, this is [only] an idea, and probably not the truth.

I dont see the point of making a out of combat stance change. If i want to heal like a scholar, ill switch to my scholar. If i want to heal like a white mage, ill switch to my white mage. The thing that i really was looking forward to in Ast was the stance changing, sure i wouldn't mind a 5 min cool down in battle, it would force me to be resourceful with my current skills and stance to suit the fight.

Again i don't see the point in make a out of combat stance change for a class that will be sub par compared to the dedicated healers, kinda seems pointless from a raid stand point, as the card buff will really have to be good enough to be considered over the sch/whm or whm/whm meta right now.