Answers About the Archons

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Originally Posted by dragoelete

whats stopping an elemental from outside Gridania from making someone a padjal?

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At the moment, the fairy-like Elementals (the ones who appeared to have cognizance, as opposed to sprites) have only been seen in the Black Shroud since the Calamity, and very, vary rarely. Before the Calamity, however, they were sighted across the realm, at times. As far as we know, the Padjal, however, exist only due to the Pact of Gelmorra, made between the proto-Gridanians and the elemental spirits of the Twelveswood. Those forced to live underground after the Sixth Umbral Era (Water) developed the use of conjury to communicate with the Elementals and beseech their forgiveness and permission to once again dwell above the surface. As part of this accord, the Elementals began to make Padjal to act as their intermediaries and the inheritors of white magic. They can bend that last part and give non-padjali-non-Gridanians white magic, but Padjali chosen by the wood are forbidden to use their powers in conflict, and the Elementals outside the wood aren't part of the accord by which Padjal are made.

You'd need to find an Elemental and find convince it to take you seriously while you say, "You know the Pact of Gelmorra? I want to look like that. I don't want to be forced to stay in one place or be forbidden to take place in combat, and what contact we have and whether I'm your intermediary is kind of negotiable, but I just want to look like that." What's a reason that the Elementals outside the Shroud would agree to make you an imposter of their neighbors chosen?

I'm sure it'd be possible to warp the world that hard, but the chances are, at the moment, kind of slim that SE would acquiesce to that request.

Are you forgetting A-Towa-Cant, the wandering padjal? He left the shroud to talk to elementals in every corner of Eorzea. Doesn't sound that different from adventuring when you think about it.

Even if the weaker Elementals outside the shroud tried to communicate with people, the most that can happen is that person will go crazy.

While not crazy, Sylphie's mother was a skilled healer who opted to use her life force since she feared she was hurting the elementals (voices in her head)

A non-Gridanian might take it a step further. With that says, yes it's theoretically possible, but highly doubtful.

If the Elemental in Gridania of all places hate most people, just imagine how weaker elemental outside of the shroud mist feel. If they could kill everyone, they would.

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Originally Posted by Mholito

Are you forgetting A-Towa-Cant, the wandering padjal?

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Not so much forgetting as giving the game the benefit of the doubt. If Padjal who wandered weren't meant to be exceptions, they wouldn't tack that adjective onto his name every time they brought him up. He was an eccentric; and the elementals seem to have willed that he heal the wounds of the land even afar, even if only by not intervening.

To uproot the Padjal from their limitations to the Twelveswood, to Gridania, to the Hyur (and perhaps the Elezen), to the Pact of Gelmorra, to Conjury and White Magic (aside from noteworthy exceptions that enhance the limitations within their lore) ... what's left? They'd be transformed from what they are into simply being another race, and most of what makes them unique would be diluted - and those who exist would have their very character altered by it. Kan-E-Senna being a Padjal would be no more noteworthy than Nanamo being a Lalafell, or Merlwyb being a Roegadyn.

That's what I mean when I say it's possible but unlikely. It would take a pretty big campaign by a whole lot of people with very little resistance for SE to do it, as far as I can tell. I'm sure that it could be done - the second Azure Dragoon is just as unlikely and also gets thrown in with The Champion of Eorzea on the "pretend it's not the case that everyone you meet has this label" pile. But will it be done? Nothing so far says Please look forwad to it.™