No it doesn't....because the post at no point mentions that anything should be changed because of eased difficulty. Re: reality. Re: learn to read. Re: See the post at the top of page 5. Every valid argument has been considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duuude007
Ironworks Fishing Rod
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02-07-2015, 07:29 PMliev
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02-07-2015, 07:35 PMDuuude007This is your point, paraphrasing, that "because you didn't mention it, it shouldn't be relevant to the discussion."Quote:
Originally Posted by liev
Ignoring these counterpoints as invalid doesn't help your argument.
Also, keep it classy about accusing 'poor reading competence'. I'm sure that will make your posts influential. -
02-07-2015, 07:39 PMlievIt's not a counterpoint. It's an argument you're trying to introduce into my already established argument. The argument has never never never been about eased difficulty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duuude007
But if you REALLY want to have it included:
The Ironworks Rod is easier to get now.
∴ wait i'm not mad about this what does this have to do with the OP? -
02-07-2015, 07:45 PMDuuude007That was only half the argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by liev
Again.
Everything inevitably falls into obselescence. your rod is not special anymore. 2.5 was a catch up patch for every doh and dol class, which is why Artisan sets are now a huge handout making crafted artisans not-so special. and crummy glamours too, for that matter.
Your thing? Not really a thing. -
02-07-2015, 10:34 PMDuuude007I see, so all that HARD WORK that people did max melding 8 sets of DoH AF, undone into irrelevance by a super simple turn-in, that's fine, but no, they can't make your HARD WORK max farming as FSH to get an achievement, undone into irrelevance by a turn-in of its own.Quote:
Originally Posted by liev
Where is the consistency here?
Oh, wait, that actually is rather consistent.
At this point you have no viable argument. Only those who have the achievement get the title, and the lucis can be dyed to look a great deal like any other fishing rod, even the supposed special glamour of luminary. Because fishing rods are inherently small and lacking significant detailing. -
02-07-2015, 11:27 PMDuuude007At this point i think he'd rather be vindicated (according to his own personal opinion).Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael
That's fine, he can continue to believe there is value in fixing something we know isn't broken.
Se la vie. -
02-07-2015, 11:45 PMChopin
Aside from the subsequent posts, I do agree with regards to the aesthetics of the Ironworks Fishing Rod. I guess with the name I was expecting something a little more visually striking for the achievement and when I equipped it I was a bit disappointed!
Just to clarify, I am totally fine with the rod being out dated. I get that's how it works and I get the bonus of my retainers being able to use the rod. At the same time, I'm not going to complain about the suggestion of an upgrade to the aesthetics of the rod and I don't really understand why so much negativity has been drawn from the OP.
Everyone responding seems to be fishers and if the devs were to take anything from this and change the Ironworks it would only effect your fishing in a positive way. -
02-07-2015, 11:58 PMDuuude007
Okay OP, I will do you a bit of a favor.
Let's say for the sake of argument, there was a following large enough for SE to decide to take their attention away from other content to make this cosmetic change you are demanding.
Here is a side by side of the differences between Luminary, Ironworks, and a metallic gold-dyed Lucis.
http://i.imgur.com/5p5gLA4.png
Why don't you explain HOW you want it to be different from these? Don't forget the 'iron'.
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02-08-2015, 12:09 AMChopin
I'd love it if the rod had similar aesthetics of the other Ironworks weapons! As long as they add Spacefishing.
For reference: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...nworks+magitek -
02-09-2015, 02:53 AMBobbinT
In case you guys didn't notice... tldr. lol