FCOB loot... "Random"? A disaster.

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Originally Posted by Hiruke

I still think there should be an option to buy loot from Coil turns with some kind of currency (currency can only be available via doing Coil if desired), with the loot only being purchasable once you have cleared the Turn that loot is from (or have cleared it X number of times if desired).

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Yeah, it would be nice if it was like Shiva Ex, where you collect diamond dust to upgrade a weapon, but in coil you have to clear T10 say 10 times to get enough tokens to use towards a T10 item.

I'll have to see where this RNG goes, it's been 11 lockout weeks, and to be fair, for the earlier turns that my static has cleared we have seen most of the drops, but not all of them quite yet.

In FCoB, I was behind on ilevel in my static for a quite some time (as well as the blm) compared to our other 2 dps, but I guess it motivated me more to try to improve how I played my class in order to keep up and see what I can do to deal my dps while handling mechanics.

5 t13 clears and 0 healing robes or weapons. Sad days, sad days.

With that being said, I like the system how it is. Otherwise, after getting the tokens and their bis, people would prematurely stop running the raids before the patch cycle ends. I know I'd personally probably stop running if I got my last two dreadwrym pieces (I have everything except the body and weapon) and everyone else had their tokens.

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Originally Posted by EdgeFayth

Having 6 times the same item is really rare, but not impossible

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Literally a 0.00006561% of happening. 1 in 1.5 million chance of occurring, and we're far from the only static to have such horrible luck. It's ludicrously bad game design to allow such a miserable game state to exist and say "LOL RNG better luck next time XD"

It's a combination of poorly planned drops (ie NIN BIS is 3 drops from t10, all from the same chest (+1 from other chest w/o using crafted) and then 1 drop each from the other turns) and no mitigating factor to control the luck that sucks. Random drops are fine as long as you give people the assurance that some day they'll get what they need. All the useful NIN drops are frontloaded in T10, yet it only drops healer boots and repeated STR belts. Without a significant fix I'm quitting the game, period. If content gets "outdated" quicker then so be it. 3-4 months of my subscription every 6 months is still better for them than 0. If they want to keep people playing, maybe instead of making content that's 6 months outdated when it's released they can start making dungeons and 24 man raids relevant instead?

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Originally Posted by Staris

funny you guys saying you killed it 10 times and have X.
You have probably at least 5 months before any new content comes out.
that is like 20 more clears or more.

If you had everything already you want mainspec would be 1000% more likely to get bored with the game.
You make the point for the system more then you do against it.

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There is a difference between having all the items in 10 week and having 0 of the items... I am now doing a very very naive (and false) calculation (but then people can understand the philosophy)... Current tier lasts ~6 months, so ~26 weeks. Perfect configuration for lifetime would be to be able to obtain all the items for main job within these 26 weeks. Since there is 11 different items, one can expect ~11/26=0.42 items per week. So on average ~4 items in 10 weeks of clears. So yes, we can complain if we still have 0 loot in this period of time. At the same time, some people already have all the FcoB loots on their main class. But of course, these guys would not complain at all :)

Best-MNK-NA: I agree with you, that really sucks, and it is a real bad luck. Same probability to win the best prize at the lottery. You should buy a ticket! :)

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Originally Posted by FranSeara

Nope, the loot system is fine as is. Every place in this game as RNG involed in its loot tables. The FCOB cant be the only expection to this rule. Live with it, or change the WHOLE loot system for the game.

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Change only for coil, since it's THE endgame content of the game. Idc if RNG is hard on me in CT or ST... but for COIL.. it's the real progression. Now, make it a gear token system. Do 5 runs a floor in coil, you have enough token to buy 1 item. Can be more then 5.. i just used a random number for this suggeestion.

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Originally Posted by ZaaZaa

Change only for coil, since it's THE endgame content of the game. Idc if RNG is hard on me in CT or ST... but for COIL.. it's the real progression. Now, make it a gear token system. Do 5 runs a floor in coil, you have enough token to buy 1 item. Can be more then 5.. i just used a random number for this suggeestion.

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Ok.....It would be UNFAIR and unwise to give a differant lot system to only a VERY small group players. I dont know how you could ever feel this is ok. but, knowing how "SOME" of you engamers think ..."Its ok because we suffer thur hard stuff" Well, its your choice to do that and you shouldnt be given a better loot system then the rest of US. "Stop crying and go Finish T25 or whatever". RNG is everywhere in this game. If you change it for some, you must change it for everyone. If not, its UNFAIR and ruins/breaks the game for everyone. ps: You are not special because you play the coils.

People running Coil sure aren't special, but Coil is. The weekly lockout changes everything and can effectively screw a whole group with bad drops. To put it bluntly, there's already a specific drop system for raids. Pretending otherwise is just deluding yourself.

My group gets no tank loot or caster loot. All we get is bard loot.. The worse thing is we keep replacing bards :-/

If they at least could take into account which classes are in the party that would be a big step in the right direction, For example in my group we have seen more then a few MNK items drop, problem is that we do not have a MNK in the party. To add to this, from BCoB, SCoB and FCoB we have never seen a caster chest drop ever.
If my memory does not fail me I am pretty sure they said something about changing the loot system for the expansion.

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Originally Posted by lordparanoia

I don't wanna seem a whiner, but really, do you think I should open a topic in the Reports forum? Is maybe unbalanced the RNG for the loots?
i honestly don't get why a group should get 5/6 Dreadwyrm Bracelet of Healing… >.< really.

And Healer pants of course NEVER dropped.

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you can't have unbalanced random.

Def agree though, if the job isn't in the party, loot should not drop