First off, Ramuh had VERY desirable drops as soon as they made the rings into i110. They were BIS for many classes at the time. Second, it already is easy to farm. Them adding echo was them nerfing it.
Returing: I've found Shiva Ex using Df easier then Ramuh. My win record so far is: Shiva Ex 16 wins, Ramuh 1. I take back what I said earier.
I don't like this passive threatening aka my FC is unsubbing because Ramuh is hard, nerf it.
I think that not every primal has to be nerfed to the ground or DFable. Titan was the lord of extremes for too long, he already need some retirement and Ramuh helped him with that. :cool:
Tip for people unable to do REX correctly: do a PF with 1 tank 3 healers (1 WHM, 2 SCH).
The main "problem" of the fight (tanks dealing with orbs) just disappears and the fight becomes a child's play. Really, no need to vocal or stuff like that.
It was a piece of cake before 2.4. Now, people are at least i120 in their main class, it should be even easier.
42 wipes on REX as of now. 6 DF and 2 PF attempts. That's 8 fulls timers, that's 8 hours of wipes total on REX.
Even TitanEX didn't require as much (Echo would counterbalance DPS dying to Landslides)
There's just a lot of coordination needed.
I *want* to PF, but I usually don't have 2 hours of group gathering available.
It's not the fight that needs nerfing, it's players getting better/less lazy - DPS especially. Dragoons come to mind. Speaking only of experience. Don't be in the water for lightning - any lightning. Just don't. Stop it.
Now 30 Shiva ex clears ( still no smn book), 1 Ramuh and 1 Odin Clear using Df. Just keeping score. lol