Are CNJ's and WHM's now DD's?

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Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine

You do realise White Mages have this funky ability called SHROUD OF SAINTS

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That's becoz TitanHM will jump again before you can use SoS again... ^^;

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Originally Posted by Saseal

Completely unrelated, but I can't stop staring (and laughing) at the gif in your signature...

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If I saw the other healer - namely WHM - in CS while healing the entire time in a HM/EX/Raid, I'd assume they either didn't notice, or just doesn't care how much more work/mp the other healer has to do/use to cover their slacked heal rate.... :|

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In the case when you need to heal but don't want over heal,
for exmaple, when titan jump, you cant do dps at that moment, you will never have mp issue for the whole fight,
everyone taken dmg, but your medica will over cure eveyrone.

So in this very special moment, I found CS could be use to reduce cure power intentionally. ^^;

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

That's becoz TitanHM will jump again before you can use SoS again... ^^;

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Then you're AoE healing an unnecessary amount or the tanks are extremely scrub. Even in Titan EX a single Medica II being cast after the first tumult is sufficient to top everyone off once the over time healing wears off (with Divine Seal if you need to). But if you're (for example) spamming Medica II combined with 2 Medica's, I can understand why your tanks are struggling with hate issues. Another possibility that you're using Shroud right after finishing the cast. It takes a second or two before you actually gain enmity from healing. Using shroud right after healing would cut your pre-healed enmity in half but adds in the enmity generated afterwards on top of that.

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Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine

Then you're AoE healing an unnecessary amount or the tanks are extremely scrub..

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Seriously, I think there were 2 causes, first the tank was not working hard enough, second I had many stone2 critical hits.
Just want to mention this weird usage as I found it would be helpful in some special moment.
Maybe one day it will become not weird when an i200 whm helping his first timer tank frd on titanHM. ^^;

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I only have this happend on my last weekend light farming in only TitanHM, not other primals.
Now I only farm GarudaHM as the fight is much shorter, so I have not tried this weird CS usage again. ^^;

lol this thread has gone way off track

mods should delete or lock before it gets into another shitstorm

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

Seriously, I think there were 2 causes, first the tank was not working hard enough, second I had many stone2 critical hits.
Just want to mention this weird usage as I found it would be helpful in some special moment.
Maybe one day it will become not weird when an i200 whm helping his first timer tank frd on titanHM. ^^;

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I dont understand how you think CS helps your healing, it nerfs it quite drastically, read the tool tip... The tank was probably struggling because you were medica II spamming, you only need to use medica II once after titan jumps, I have never had tanks struggle to keep agro off me regardless of their gear level. A good healer knows how to manage their hate and not deliberately pull from tanks. If you did manage to pull from the MT it would probably have resulted in your death, a wipe and a very angry party.

Also in titan id rather you used your MP on healing rather than spamming stone II...

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Originally Posted by Ignnis

I dont understand how you think CS helps your healing...Also in titan id rather you used your MP on healing rather than spamming stone II...

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I am sorry I have confused you ^^;
In short, I just mean normally CS is used to increased dmg, but you can use it to reduce cure number intentionally.

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Originally Posted by Ignnis

Also in titan id rather you used your MP on healing rather than spamming stone II...

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On the other points I agree, but there's very little to heal in Titan if people do it right. Titan HM is a snooze fest; heal Tumult, heal Geocrush, heal tank occasionally. I'd rather the WHM be doing something with the thousands of MP they don't need, especially if you have the default two healer slots from DF.

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Originally Posted by mdha02

They say they are healing just fine with CS up even though I have to pop potions and my BLM friend spends half the battle healing because the CNJ/WHM are to busy DDing.

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Well, I've heard enough. Sounds like this WHM was just being immature, not aware of what others are having to do, or just plain bored of their class. It seems they want to play a DD but don't want to suffer the longer dungeon queues.

BLM should not have to be healing. It's nice that they tried, but there's no reason for it if you have a remotely adequate healer. Almost would have been worth it to let the party wipe if the WHM's not doing their job, just to prove a point. If they "are healing just fine with CS up," then no one should die because of it.

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

On the other points I agree, but there's very little to heal in Titan if people do it right. Titan HM is a snooze fest; heal Tumult, heal Geocrush, heal tank occasionally. I'd rather the WHM be doing something with the thousands of MP they don't need, especially if you have the default two healer slots from DF.

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Think I might of just been unlucky with my DF titan runs then. Theres always at least 2 min getting hit with aoes and I usually have to ress someone thats charged headlong into a bomb. I don't mean NEVER DPS during titan but don't blow it all on DPS incase suddenly everything goes nuts and people are getting hit by aoes and suddenly you need to start healing like crazy (or if your healing partner gets landslided and you are suddenly solo healing). Had parties that barely needed healed then as soon as phase 5 happened everyone jumped ship and I had to start healing like mad.