Goodbye cleric stance.. you will be sorely missed

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Originally Posted by Sonoran

Best change ever, SCH is way overpowered...kite, Shield/HOT, DOT target, burn TP and run around obstacles until melee are dead. Happens all the time now, not skill just OP. Cant wait to play Frontlines tonight :)

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So you are fine with scholars moving from overpowered to almost useless?
You are also fine with the fact that a lot of people are planning on quitting healing in pvp when its already hard to get healers sometimes?
Like seriously there is at least going to be an exodus of Scholars.

Fine, fine. Clearly this thread was made for people who wanted to bitch about the patch and not for those that doesn't think it's the end of the world. I'll back out to let the crying continue.

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Originally Posted by Copestetic

Fine, fine. Clearly this thread was made for people who wanted to bitch about the patch and not for those that doesn't think it's the end of the world. I'll back out to let the crying continue.

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Yeah kay. Come back when you've levelled SCH.

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Originally Posted by Copestetic

Fine, fine. Clearly this thread was made for people who wanted to bitch about the patch and not for those that doesn't think it's the end of the world. I'll back out to let the crying continue.

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Actually I was just counterclaiming all your statements and blase half understanding of scholars in pvp.
TBH I think you are stepping out because everyone has actually nulled all your arguments and you want to bow out while going "I didn't lose this argument HONEST."

Edit - Sudden realisation - ACTUALLY, we scholars should be DOUBLY pissed about this, our whole job is about mixing dps with healing hence why we spent our first 30 levels as a dps, why would they make more than half our skills useless, did they not think this through?

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Originally Posted by Lycinder

So you are fine with scholars moving from overpowered to almost useless?
You are also fine with the fact that a lot of people are planning on quitting healing in pvp when its already hard to get healers sometimes?
Like seriously there is at least going to be an exodus of Scholars.

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If all 3 sides lose them thats still balanced. Not going to argue with someone who thinks SCH wasnt OP because they are, and yes I play one as well. Kite, Dot, HOT/shield and run....they can kill WAR, PLD, BRD, DRG, MNK with no skill needed. I would rather they make this change then no change at all.

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Originally Posted by Sonoran

If all 3 sides lose them thats still balanced. Not going to argue with someone who thinks SCH wasnt OP because they are, and yes I play one as well. Kite, Dot, HOT/shield and run....they can kill WAR, PLD, BRD, DRG, MNK with no skill needed. I would rather they make this change then no change at all.

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If you read my posts I agree'd that Scholars as they were, were actually op as heck so I was expecting a dps nerf not a dps NUKE, enjoy frontlines without succor and all the other fancy buffs scholars bring to the table because only a masochist will play a scholar pvp as they are now.

As other says I think that it's a lazy solution too.

Probably they did it cause of 7 WHM party, so atleast they shoulded do somewhat like:
"Cleric Stance will be unavailable if there are more than 4 healer in your party"
(And it woulded be lazy anyway in my opinion, but atleast a little more understandable)

So THAT tricky strategy would be nerfed, but not all the healer that were just using well his class.

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Originally Posted by Lycinder

Actually I was just counterclaiming all your statements and blase half understanding of scholars in pvp.
TBH I think you are stepping out because everyone has actually nulled all your arguments and you want to bow out while going "I didn't lose this argument HONEST."

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Think what you want. I could careless. You go right ahead and say how strategically smart it is to 1v1 as a healer when your team's waiting on you. Or that when you are forced into a 1v1, you literally have to stay there and finish it to the end. Or that it's damn-near impossible to pull off an Esuna or Leech when taking fire from one or two people. Or that there's going to be this huge mass exodus of SCH's and WHM's because their DPS had been nerfed out of existence. Doesn't matter to me. lol I'll still be healing in FL until WD gets some love.

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Originally Posted by Copestetic

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Do you even read my posts, claiming I 1v1 when I straight out said "I use it to scare away the 1v1'ers" and I even was saying my healing efficacy isn't really changed when I switch between heal to dps, YOU should really be bowing out of this conversation since you don't pay attention AT ALL.

And of course you are fine with this nerf, you've been playing your class as if it was already nerfed so gg I guess? well done at playing half as efficiently.

Edit - Also I said exodus of scholars not white mages, more proof you were not paying attention
You also used mass exodus after I edited my post saying "Mass" in exodus is kind of redundant, not really an insult or comeback or anything since I did it myself but I just found it funny.
Edit edit - No wait you said huge mass exodus, that's just redundant over redundant.

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Why are you still in this thread if you have nothing constructive to say. If you think we're just whining without a basis then stop bumping this thread and leave us to our discussion.