Soldiery Rings - Remove Unique

People are so obsessed over a number. This wouldn't even be a debate right now had they not put sands and oils on Hunts this early in the content cycle. They should have waited until 2.4 when people could try DFing SCoB.

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Originally Posted by Waeksyn

I was thinking more about this, wondering why ANY of the tome gear was unique and not just untradable? It doesn't make much sense - who cares if you spend your tomes on more than 1 of a piece that can't be sold or traded (notwithstanding my issue with the rings)?

I think the only reason the gear is coded this way is because SE will be changing it to a dungeon drop in the future (like they did with all the Darklight gear). Myth gear will go to dungeons and myth tomes will be scrapped. Then the same for Soldiery. Ignoring the fact that you can actually have 5 pieces of the same "Unique" gear (by giving one to each of your retainers to hold) it makes sense to have dungeon dropped gear unique to keep you from winning gear from people that don't already have it.

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Since you missed it the first time:

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Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial

It's this way to encourage you to do content, not neglect it.

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Originally Posted by Waeksyn

BTW, it's very easy for me to get i110 by just equipping a ring that does very little for my job. Maybe the gloam ring for Det which is in short supply on brd equip.

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If being i110 is more important than doing your job properly, sure, equip the Gloam Ring.

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Originally Posted by Defteros

drop an oil from ST, upgrade your soldiery ring, then equip another weathered soldiery ring of the same tipe.

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Or just beat Ramuh EX.

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Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial

Since you missed it the first time:

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Thanks for repeating your post but I did actually see it the first time. Not sure how it adds anything to the new point that I made that you quoted. How exactly does making all tome gear Unique encourage you to do content?

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Originally Posted by Exstal

Explain why you think rings, that have been set in this way since 2.0, should be changed now. I will not accept, "I want my average item level to be i110" as an answer.

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How about "the coil ring sucks and I want something for my job that is a little more useful then just the 42 hp (3vit) it can give?"
Sorry, but the fending ring sucks and is barely above the level of being a downgrade. A second noct ring would be BIS at least with a 600+ parry build) since it is 19 acc (which gets me to the 502 acc for front facing mobs) vs 13 det which is kinda meh...

I am using the noct/weathered noct pair, but as with anyone else would prefer to be max ilvl.

Here is another reason:
Unique status on items that are bought is stupid. It makes sense that you cant sell or trade to limit the impact on the market, but not being able to buy two of them is stupid.

Just because something has been a certain way for a long time does not mean it wasn't stupid then too.

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Originally Posted by Waeksyn

Thanks for repeating your post but I did actually see it the first time. Not sure how it adds anything to the new point that I made that you quoted. How exactly does making all tome gear Unique encourage you to do content?

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duuurrrr maybe because if you want full i110 it encourages you to do coil?
Or if you're entitled/lazy I guess it encourages you to whine on the forums.

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Originally Posted by Waeksyn

As far as why people would want i110 if they're not doing coil, I think you're missing the entire concept behind games such as this. This game is nothing more than Pokemon in a fantasy setting. Gotta get em all. People keep playing the game in order to collect in-game stuff that has no real value in the real world. Don't get me wrong, I like the game (and liked Pokemon too for that matter).

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Basically, you are asking to be able to catch Mewtwo without beating the Elite Four.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

People are so obsessed over a number. This wouldn't even be a debate right now had they not put sands and oils on Hunts this early in the content cycle. They should have waited until 2.4 when people could try DFing SCoB.

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As long as people equate ilvl to skill, this will always be an issue.

lets be honest for a second, look over this thread and some others with the 'if you don't do coil, then your a baddie' or the 'if you not doing coil, then you don't need high ilvl' type crap...
the issue is not about the gear as much as the 'elitist mentality'.

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Originally Posted by Deviant1

As long as people equate ilvl to skill, this will always be an issue.

lets be honest for a second, look over this thread and some others with the 'if you don't do coil, then your a baddie' or the 'if you not doing coil, then you don't need high ilvl' type crap...
the issue is not about the gear as much as the 'elitist mentality'.

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The only people that equate it to skill are the people who actually lack it.
Most people realise that skill generally trumps gear.