Time limit to re-enter dungeons

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Originally Posted by Misha

Sorry you fail at the concept of freedom... usually these low IQ people make me laugh but you people are pathetic and hopeless. We have the freedom to do what we want in the game! This is great news for casuals and people who plays lots... if you don't wanna plow through content SUPER FAST then DON'T do it... is it hard to understand? ugggh, I usually laugh at low IQ's like this but I feel all disgusted now lmao Have fun... complaining... about... freedom!

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oh man insufferable underage white girl indeed rofl

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Originally Posted by Misha

Sorry you fail at the concept of freedom... usually these low IQ people make me laugh but you people are pathetic and hopeless.

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Are you praising your own IQ? If you would have a higher IQ than a chicken, you wouldnt laugh at different oppinions.

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Originally Posted by Misha

We have the freedom to do what we want in the game!

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Who is "we"? Your imaginary friend?

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Originally Posted by Misha

This is great news for casuals and people who plays lots... if you don't wanna plow through content SUPER FAST then DON'T do it... is it hard to understand?

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That is your personal oppinion and yes, it is great news for casuals. But you forget any Sideeffect which can go along with a fast re-enter posibility. If you would have an high IQ like you are trying to say, you would try to watch at things out of different views.

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Originally Posted by Misha

ugggh, I usually laugh at low IQ's like this but I feel all disgusted now lmao Have fun... complaining... about... freedom!

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That just made me loosing any respect into your person. Its just a foolish statement to do. Let everyone have their oppinion, let everyone discuss and speculate about things and be constructive. THAT is freedom. Get real please or you will lower the image you gave everyone from yourself, even more.

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Originally Posted by Demacia

With drop rates like that I don't give a fuck lol. I hated NM farming in XI, though the rarity of actually getting what you wanted did make it a lot more satisfying (but frustrating).

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like i said everything have its pros and cons, arguing everything is super 100% is completely selfish and one sided.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

And you think with a 8-24 hour lockout, the same equally lucky linkshells won't be done long before the other guys?

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longer lockout = extended life of content and % of gaining loot goes down. Simple math.

Never mind

If these are used to exp, good.

If this is the end-all endgame content, meh. Doubt it tho.

5 minute feel like a joke to me. Besides, if they are really so hard, maybe isn't a bad thing after all. Let's wait and see

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Originally Posted by Nero

Are you praising your own IQ? If you would have a higher IQ than a chicken, you wouldnt laugh at different oppinions.



Who is "we"? Your imaginary friend?



That is your personal oppinion and yes, it is great news for casuals. But you forget any Sideeffect which can go along with a fast re-enter posibility. If you would have an high IQ like you are trying to say, you would try to watch at things out of different views.



That just made me loosing any respect into your person. Its just a foolish statement to do. Let everyone have their oppinion, let everyone discuss and speculate about things and be constructive. THAT is freedom. Get real please or you will lower the image you gave everyone from yourself, even more.

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I think I found a video of the person you're quoting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8CjZt-xSLI

At least 10 years in the future though.

The only reasonable explanation for such a short lockout timer would be that they want people to give lots of feedback and quickly about the dungeons and how they work so SE can optimize future ones.

If the other dungeons added in 1.19~1.20 are also 5 minutes - Yoshida needs to rethink things. He totes about EverQuest all the time and wants to add things from it. This is not EQesque. This is even more casual than Hello Kitty Online.

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Originally Posted by Richard

longer lockout = extended life of content and % of gaining loot goes down. Simple math.

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No it doesn't. Chance of loot remains the same regardless of the amount of time between trials. The super-lucky linkshell that would have gotten full drops for all their 8 members in X amount of runs would get it the same regardless if they had to wait 0 minutes between runs or 8-24 hours.

It DOES extend the life of the content, you're right. But you're not the ultimate judge on how long content should last. For every person that wants a lockout, and to only be able to have one attempt a day or whatever, there's at least another person who wants to have unlimited attempts a day (and vice versa).

The BALANCED solution to that, of course, is to give a short lockout to allow for multiple attempts, because you can police yourself to only have one attempt a day when the content has a short lockout; but you can't get in multiple attempts a day if the lockout is long.