2 hours waiting for T5 in Duty Finder.

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Originally Posted by necrosis

DF is worthless for practice.

In one weekend I ran Titan (Hard) 30 times. That's right. THIRTY. You know what. ZERO made it past the heart phase. I could run pre-heart blind by the time the weekend was over. Once I moved servers to the one my IRL friends are on (Still bitter about this BS SE) I finally got past the heart and had no idea what to do. Took a few tries and was basically carried at this point but I finally got it done.

Not to mention people are '1 wipe abandon' happy in DF.

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Given how I cleared it on my first time and used DF to FARM titan hard I honestly find this really hard to believe. At least the success rate doesn't reflect the average skill level of DF parties in that instance.

Oh the horror stories of Titan HM duty finder in the earlier stages of this game! I wonder if the echo really help people clear Titan HM these days or are there a lot more carries going on? :p

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Originally Posted by Hidan13

I have almost all jobs to 50, my main jobs are geared past 90 and I've hit a wall, I can't advance any further since I won't be able to finish a lot of the content due to bad DF parties.

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I joined a lot of "Levi EX Farming Groups" lately, and TBH, for my first kill I sneaked into a Farmgrp as well.

So nobody has any shame joining a Grp which states "Kill XP" and after the fight, the Achievment pops up ^^ (seen 3 popups in one levi kill ^^)

You miss nothing on T5 in DF, except for some happy wiping... bring up your own Group like "Training Grp, but know the fight, cause we want to kill" - chances are, some ppl wanting their weapon will join you, or help you.

But really, dont try this fight at Duty Finder - I wouldn´t count on any chance there, myself would never do such thing cause it´s clearly a timewaster

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

actually they don't have to. melee LB is also a valid method of killing asclepius.



I think you are overestimating the amount of people having 1m gil and wanting to spend them on T5. T5 isn't really difficult for who puts the time to learn now that the echo removed any sort of job check. You only have to know how conflag works, then know how to dodge dives and twisters. Then find 7 other people who have ben up to twisters or higher and taa-daa, got a clear. Even in DF

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It would be overestimating if I had estimated anything i.e. "x% of players have bought T5 wins". All I did was state what is technically possible. I think we can agree that a non-zero amount of players buy T5 wins. The only question is it a small % or a large %. Either way, SE's not going to have perfect data on how many people are actually able to get clears. It would be unfortunate if SE was making decisions about content difficulty for those who don't buy clears based on data where a significant amount of people buy clears. Please note that I said "if". I have no idea how many players have 1m gil or would want to spend it on a T5 clear.