Let's talk about THAT cutscene from the main story (spoilers)

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Originally Posted by Seif

Here we go again. Can't you just appreciate it for what it is without seeing "teasers" in every frame?

Smh some guys never learn. Never ever.

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The entire finale of that quest was obviously a giant teaser. We aren't "seeing" a teaser. We are simply exploring one they very clearly gave us.

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Originally Posted by Xandim

Ok, its all cool but.... How can Yugiri teach us how to ninja if she only appears during the lv50 quest? Do we unlock ninjas only @lv50? Or she will teach us @lv30 then suddenly she will be seeking asylum? Btw, Thief is probably a job not a class, xD

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Unlocking new Classes by progressing through the story line? ((Yes Please))
- In before the "Why should I have to level a class I don't like to play one I do"

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Originally Posted by Xandim

Ok, its all cool but.... How can Yugiri teach us how to ninja if she only appears during the lv50 quest? Do we unlock ninjas only @lv50? Or she will teach us @lv30 then suddenly she will be seeking asylum? Btw, Thief is probably a job not a class, xD

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Just a guess, and I *hate* to have to do this, but it could possibly go the route WoW took with Death Knight.

If that's the case, don't expect to see new classes until the level cap is raised.

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

Norg wasn't the far east? It certainly felt far, what with all the stupid tunnels and jungles you had to travel through.

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Norg was just on an island southeast of the Mindartian continent, it is much much closer than the Aradjiah continent (where Aht Urhgan is located). http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/images/world_index.jpg

Thief or scout what ever it will be called we can be certain this new Dual Dagger class will have 2 Jobs to split from being that 1 Tank path and 1 DPS path since it is far easier to introduce 2 Jobs for a new class.

Base Class design may follow a DPS class until lvl 30 when you must choose to be DPS role Job or a Tank role Job.

Remember stats in this game are not complicated so as a DPS Scout will follow the STR for main stats (being a Melee class) while Vit stat if you go tank path.

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Originally Posted by Seif

Here we go again. Can't you just appreciate it for what it is without seeing "teasers" in every frame?

Smh some guys never learn. Never ever.

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Did you even complete the main story? Yugiri said she would be willing to train us once she completed her task with the Lominsan underground guild. It's not too much of a stretch to think a new class/job is coming.

In short, we're looking at this:'

- Thief class, Ninja Job (99% certain on this). All expectations at this point are speculation with varying levels
- Knives/daggers that were normally GLA weapons may be reassigned to the THF and be usable/interchangeable as both main AND offhands (trait?).
- Steal/Mug being iconic features of the THF class *may* be implemented to flavor this DPS as non-generic, such as an extra chance to obtain gil/items from an enemy in addition to their drops. Everything in regards to this remains pure speculation, regardless of fangirling the subject.
- It's highly, highly unlikely THF will be given the same stealth as DOL's, but I wouldn't write it off completely. No Steal/Mug class in the past has had access to unlimited invisibility and may break some dungeons with shortcuts.


It is extraordinarily doubtful that GLA will be getting a DPS alternative Job instead (like the Summoner/Scholar split) due to the expected differences in gear (lighter). It would be fair to assume a generic monk-dps-clone with some unique itemization quirks, possibly less DPS overall compared to more 'assault grade' dps'ers like the Monk, Dragoon, and BLM, and more in the region of support-dps like the BRD.

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Originally Posted by Zourin

- Thief class, Ninja Job (99% certain on this). All expectations at this point are speculation with varying levels

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And where's your evidence on this that makes you 99% certain? Your speculation isn't any more viable than mine.

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Originally Posted by Zourin

- Knives/daggers that were normally GLA weapons may be reassigned to the THF and be usable/interchangeable as both main AND offhands (trait?).

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Which would screw with the armory system. What other class can equip two weapons at once?

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Originally Posted by Zourin

It is extraordinarily doubtful that GLA will be getting a DPS alternative Job instead (like the Summoner/Scholar split) due to the expected differences in gear (lighter). It would be fair to assume [It could be] a generic monk-dps-clone with some unique itemization quirks, possibly less DPS overall...and more in the region of support-dps like the BRD.

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My guess is GLA's alternate job will be RDM. But that's another thread.

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Originally Posted by XanderOlivieri

As for some reasoning with what ever guild being the base class, Thancred's base class will change from GLD to what ever the new class is. All of the members of the Scions are in the base classes. Yda is a Pugilist, Papalymo is a Thaumaturge, Ysholt'a is a Conjurer, Urganeir is an Arcanist. Thancred, like his brethren, will adopt the new class as his so if its a Thief guild, he will be a Thief Class with the addition. If its named anything else, Thancred will be what ever it is named.

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This isn't really the case, Urianger was a ACN in 1.0 and that class didn't even exist back then, grants it was a bit different to the one we got in ARR but, there is no reason to believe that Thancred is a Gladiator.

As others have pointed out Thief won't be the class, none of the classes so far have taken the name of a FF job, I expect scout or assassin (Bandit, Burgler, Purloiner), or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Zourin

- Thief class, Ninja Job (99% certain on this). All expectations at this point are speculation with varying levels

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No. Thief has always been a Final Fantasy Job. No different than a WHM. There is absolutely no reason to believe it would suddenly be a lowly class when it has always been a series staple. White mage was a conjurer not a white mage, and white mage was the series staple. To assume this would change now would be to ignore absolutely everything this series has done up till now and to ignore everything this game has done till now. This game is extremely heavy on the fan service after all. Following the conventions already given to us I can say very confidently that Thief is in no way the class.

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Originally Posted by Zourin

- Knives/daggers that were normally GLA weapons may be reassigned to the THF and be usable/interchangeable as both main AND offhands (trait?).

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Or they can leave them as is and add more daggers and simply list the job requirement on the weapon as the new job required. This is no different than the way SMN and SCH books are handled. Also, we shouldn't assume we can equip two different blades. It's entirely likely the system will be just like the monks where we equip 1 item and it fits both hands.