Frustration regarding Patch 2.2

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Originally Posted by Milmoko_Gemoko

What annoyed me about the patch was we were promised bigger inventory and armour chest (im gonna find the post from after 2.1 where its mentioned just to make sure) and instead we get to buy (with real money) an extra retainer - thats the only let down for me so far to be honest.

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I just spent 2 dollars on an extra retainer and freeing up all that inventory space was amazing. Pretty much the same thing they did in final fantasy 11 when we paid one dollar per alt so we could mule gear over to them. Sorry you're bummed on it, but that 2 dollars fixed my inventory issues, and that is fine by me.

work... in a game? wait don't we normally play a game? not work in a game.

i think a lot of you simply want to place artificial wall like grind or RNG (zodiac). this is not challenge, this is not a feeling of accomplishement... but a feeling i must log in the game for work.
it's sad that SE did follow the demand of a part of the community that see the game more than a work than a game. but well i will still play the game, not work the game.

at all the one that say that it great and that all must ask hard work...i will say this, you maybe need to check the definition of a game and think a bit if you are still "playing" the game.

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Originally Posted by chocomaid

2.2 has been out for 12 hours, damn. Why are you so compelled to do it all in one day?

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Because ESO early access starts in 2 days.

But seriously, there is a silver lining. The idea of grinding about 2400 low level fates solved my problem of finding time for both games.

I do think the price (essentially at least 45 of whatever ex-philo item) for the mastery books is a bit much.. but everything else you listed I'm actually fine with. The only one true thing that bugs me this patch is that I seem to be back to FATE grinding a lot just to get over a hurdle so I can get to what I would consider the "fun" grind.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

work... in a game? wait don't we normally play a game? not work in a game.

i think a lot of you simply want to place artificial wall like grind or RNG (zodiac). this is not challenge, this is not a feeling of accomplishement... but a feeling i must log in the game for work. it's sad that SE did follow the demand of a part of the community that see the game more than a work than a game. but well i will still play the game, not work the game.

at all the one that say that it great and that all must ask hard work...i will say this, you maybe need to check the definition of a game and think a bit if you are still "playing" the game.

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Maybe I should, but then again, I am paying to log in to play something I enjoy, you are paying to log in to play something you don't enjoy. Who seems like the fool in that situation?

I've been looking for content like this, I am happy. A shame you are going to continue to pay to play when you are not. I can't wait to down Leviathan, get my new weapon while working on upgrading my relic while trying new turns of coil.

That implies ESO is good. Played BETA..it isnt..biggest letdown since SWTOR. Wildstar was ok but it feels like they are rushing it out the door to.

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Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard

The fact you think grinding some boring, repetitive task a chimp could replicate as "Hard work" is beyond comical to me.

It heartily saddens me that software companies have managed to convince the mouth-breathing masses that their laziness in releasing tiny amounts of content at a glacial pace is okay as long as it's wrapped up in some tedious grind restricted by daily/weekly lockouts.

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No form of media exists that can be made faster than it will be consumed.

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Originally Posted by Amused

This patch was a major disappointment and everything that was added seems to require such a ridiculous grind that I find myself also saying "Why bother?" I never thought I'd feel this way about this game but if this is what the future looks like I doubt I'll be sticking around..

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This is where I'm at too. I'm not surprised though. It was only a matter of time before they added long-term goals to all classes. But I was still secretly hoping this was the game where I could keep my account active and use it as filler with short-term accomplishments. It certainly worked out that way (to my pleasure) for the first six months.

I'm still going to try out the patch just to see if the comments in here are all- encompassing, but if all the new stuff turns out to be weeks of work for one upgrade . . . yeah . . . not anymore. Time and dedication are just better spent on other things. The days where I was willing to do that for an MMO are long gone.

^ but at that point why play an MMO (RPG) there are plenty of other titles now a days that can fill the short term need. Diablo 3, Borderlands, League of legends, Dota, Loadout, Team Fortress, etc.

I mean if you are a fan of mmos you would be deluding yourself to think they are only about short term goals and quick fixes.

They're not walls. They're hurdles and challenges and CONTENT for the player to overcome. That's what makes you a good PLAYER and that's what makes these items more VALUABLE. They learned because of the Relic quest being too easy. everyone has a relic. Suddenly feels less valuable doesn't it? You're from 1.0. When you'd see someone with a relic before you had one, it was a sight. You'd check it out...say wow, I can't wait to get mine. 2.0, You get relics in a day. I welcome the time consuming quests. We're JUST getting started too! So don't cry too hard.

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But I do know this. First time's an accident, second time's a coincidence, third time something is seriously wrong. Housing prices were an accident. All the walls preventing us from getting at the new stuff in 2.2? That's a coincidence. If 2.3 ends up being just as frustrating, that will mark a trend. A very, very bad trend.

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2.1...First time was not an accident. We were told the housing was going to be expensive. I expected these prices. You think these are bad? Go check out Aion's housing prices. That was a few years ago when I checked, so who knows what they are now.

2.2 was not a coincidence, you're just a baby because you want an "instant gratification button." A trend I'm starting to see more and more in "gamers" these days...and I do not like it.

2.3 Sorry to say will probably frustrate you further, especially if you put no effort into 2.2. No it will not mark a trend, it'll be the mark of a good MMO.

It's only going to get more complex as time goes on. I assure you. I run a small FC. We wanted a medium size house. We couldn't make the money in time for the plot we wanted. We went with a small house. And we're happy with it. Didn't see any of us on here complaining and crying and whining and calling the wambulance because we couldn't afford the medium size house.

So shape up, stop whining like a baby, and play the game. The amount of time you took to type your entire OP you could have already started your new relic quest and unlocked the 3 new dungeons.