Tanks Who Constantly Queue and Then Withdraw Trying to Get in Progress Instances

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Originally Posted by Mailstrum

how does it extend your time??? give proof because ive explained to you how it doesnt...

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Your argument would be valid if you were the only tank queueing. I know you like to feel important, but let's face it, you're not the only tank queueing. By queueing and withdrawing, you are wasting people's time because they keep getting you when they could be getting someone who will actually join the group and get something done. By the same token, you're not the only one fishing for an in-progress run, either. You may only withdraw 5 or 6 times, but in that time, the first group waiting may have had the queue pop up 20 times. It's not just about you, it's the fact that a lot of tanks are doing the same thing, that wastes people's time.

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Originally Posted by Mailstrum

I promise you that your wait time is not inflated because of someone withdrawing. You would still be waiting for a tank to fill that last spot anyways. If there was enough tanks queueing to fill your group you wouldnt get the same guy withdrawing over and over.

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Here, I'll use short, simple sentences: It's quite clearly not the same guy; it happens way too fast. It's pretty obviously a lot of guys doing this at the same time, most of the time. It does indeed inflate wait times, because it is a popular activity. Please look beyond yourself and have some consideration for other people.

Make the ban a week, anyone willing to make 7 other's queue take 30+ minutes deserves to lose a lockout. I also don't think the flag system should be in. If you queue more than 4 times in 3 minutes, you should get a week ban.

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Originally Posted by Sove92

You don't seem to understand...

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and you seem to not understand is thats not true.

thats not true.... if you look at the dutyfinder 23/24 people are built together... you are all in the same queue waitinig for the 24th person if i withdraw. the duty finder goes back to 5/6 6/6 12/12 the same 23 people are in the same queue together.

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Originally Posted by Aegis

2 groups of 23 people are queuing, waiting for one tank. Tank pops, instance is reserved, everyone accepts, tank drops. In the meantime a second tank queues, joins the second alliance, they go in, leapfrogging the first alliance.




Except they don't.

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except they do... the whole point of looking for inprogress is to save time... a tank waiting 20seconds then dropping isnt saving time. and defeats teh whole purpose of doing an inprogress run.

people like you i swear Ban ban ban for using a feature in the game the way its intended.

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Originally Posted by Calyanare

I'm pretty sure this isn't the way it was intended to be used.

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its exactly the way its intneded. I want to join an inprogress run. So i click the inprogress option. and then i queue and wait for a queue pop for an inprogress run. How is that not how its intended to be used.

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Originally Posted by flamds1

Im pretty sure repeatedly spamming withdraw until you get what you want isn't working as intended. Just joing the inprogress only queue and you won't be inconveniencing anyone. You've already stated you don't have any intention of joining a new start so why would you join a new start queue?

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there isnt a join inprogres only queue.... I am using the options given to me to join an inprogress group.

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Originally Posted by Synapse

You are assuming your the only instances being formed. There are multiple forming. Whenever the reconfirmation resets due to withdrawing, the players you see again are not the same.

Try this: After getting withdrawing 20x, and the party formed, ask anyone in the pt(formed from DF) if they had 20x withdrawals.

I bet they would not have had that, some may just had 3 and some may have had 30. I tried this with CT, after finally enter on the 35th withdrawal, then members said they didn't even get that many.

It mixes ppl around every time someone withdraws.

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That exactly what happens. before when i needed loot of first 2 bosses i would see this happen with the withdraw and people in all 3 alliances would be like "FINALY!!! that guy must of withdrew like 10 times!!!

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Originally Posted by flamds1

and when the status goes to 0/6 /0/6 2/12 how do you explain that? Where did the 23 other people go?

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When that happens full groups Withdrew from the queue to try and get away from the one guy withdrawing.

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Originally Posted by Aegis

Oh, wait, I got it all wrong, you checked the option to only queue up for in progress runs?

That option does not exist, therefore doing in progress runs only is not intended.

That option is to say you are open to join in progress runs also, not only.

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i could understand you guys getting upset if it actually effected you. but it doesnt. It doesnt inflate you queue time at most it gets your hopes up when you see the queue pop.

It seems ive used my daily posting.....

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Originally Posted by Mailstrum

people like you i swear Ban ban ban for using a feature in the game the way its intended.

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I'm pretty sure this isn't the way it was intended to be used.

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Originally Posted by Mailstrum

thats not true.... if you look at the dutyfinder 23/24 people are built together... you are all in the same queue waitinig for the 24th person if i withdraw. the duty finder goes back to 5/6 6/6 12/12 the same 23 people are in the same queue together.

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Not necessarily just because the numbers are the same doesn't mean it's the same people. Unless there's only one group of people queueing for ct and theres more than that.

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Originally Posted by Mailstrum

and you seem to not understand is thats not true.

thats not true.... if you look at the dutyfinder 23/24 people are built together... you are all in the same queue waitinig for the 24th person if i withdraw. the duty finder goes back to 5/6 6/6 12/12 the same 23 people are in the same queue together.

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You are assuming your the only instances being formed. There are multiple forming. Whenever the reconfirmation resets due to withdrawing, the players you see again are not the same.

Try this: After getting withdrawing 20x, and the party formed, ask anyone in the pt(formed from DF) if they had 20x withdrawals.

I bet they would not have had that, some may just had 3 and some may have had 30. I tried this with CT, after finally enter on the 35th withdrawal, then members said they didn't even get that many.

It mixes ppl around every time someone withdraws.

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Originally Posted by KrenianKandos

I have no issues putting the penalty to people who miss the queue after 45 seconds. In fact, I rather deal with immediate withdraw instead of 45 seconds of DPS AFKing because they're bored waiting for the queue. It actually aggravates me even more than the withdraw discussion.

If you don't have the patience to wait a bit for a run and just afk, then just don't bother. I know it sucks for DPS but honestly, the DD class can go do other things. IN fact, just queue up while you do dailies or hunt a map or craft or whatever. Just do something!

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And here is the thing, i cant do all the things you mention when i queue ! All 10 sec i get the massage that i can go in the duty dn but then it begins with withdraw ! Let me see you how you craft or farm matirials or do questing ! And as DPS if you miss to enter you wait again from 45min to 90-120 min depends on the dn !

And all this because some idiots !!!

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Originally Posted by Mailstrum

people like you i swear Ban ban ban for using a feature in the game the way its intended.

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Im pretty sure repeatedly spamming withdraw until you get what you want isn't working as intended. Just joing the inprogress only queue and you won't be inconveniencing anyone. You've already stated you don't have any intention of joining a new start so why would you join a new start queue?