Question for End Game Raiding SCH (Those guys with ilvl 90 stuffs lol)

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Originally Posted by Noctrin

It mostly boils down to bad tanks not using cooldowns when they should (mountain buster, eating a bomb, death sentence). Dps not moving out of aoes and healers blowing cooldowns at the wrong time. As a sch, put those points in vit, they will serve you better than mind, i can guarantee it.

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Literally you are telling us that it is everyone's fault for dying but not scholar's for healing not enough. The reason why you burn cooldown is for the extra healing, no? So if extra healing is making no difference, i don't think you need to burn any cooldowns to save the day.

Sometimes, to determine whether two heals can top the tank off nicely at 100% for a big hit or will only be able to heal him up till 95%. Yes, it is situational, but happens. If your tank is at 95% after heal and a big hit is coming, you will need to risk him being dead due to RNG (boss crit normal hit).

Yes, VIT is good. That is.....if you cannot dodge AOEs or are getting unnecessary damage which you term that as BAD. So instead of spec into 30MND that can potentially saves the raid from wiping (i mentioned potentially, not 100%) you opt for something that can save your ass when you go BAD.

If you establish your theory that way, can i assume that DPS can also spec in VIT so that they can cover their ass when they go BAD?

Summary:

1. Raid fails, Tank = BAD, DPS = BAD, healers = Bad for not burning CD at the correct time (burn CD to increase healing potency or point blank increase more heal which is what 30 MND does)
2. Spec VIT, so when you get hit by AOE red circle, you survive and everyone who die is BAD because they dont spec VIT.

That looks about right?!!

That would be correct if there just wasn't so much damage that is simply unavoidable. There is a definet (don't have the exact numbers) amount of HP you NEED for high end content and that can not be obtained with out being full decked out in i90(even then healers need a bit more I am pretty sure), slotting extra VIT in melded accessories or putting your points in VIT.

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Originally Posted by Ymbryne

Calyanare - If you were using Selene, then I'm assuming you were using her spell speed and skill speed buffs, which would mean that your DPS was killing things faster, of course.

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Well, duh. I almost always use Selene for everything, for that reason. What I'm saying is that we noticed an increase in the increase and there were only two spec changes made in my group: one of the Bards bought his Zenith, and I specced into PIE to see what would happen. I haven't had a chance to look at this closely yet, but my subjective experience is that PIE scales much better than MND, and seems to affect the fairy in a positive way as well. Your claim that PIE doesn't affect the fairy seems at first glance to be false--but I'm going to be testing this more to see if I can find out what's really going on, once I grind out the seals for a couple more Hymns.

Edit: By the way, I did notice that PIE doesn't just affect MP and MP Regen. It also affects Spell Speed, FWIW. (Inb4 "spell speed is garbage", just putting this out there)

Go 30 MND. If you need extra VIT, meld some VIT materia onto Astral accessories and use those. Food such as Mulled Tea also gives VIT and PIE. You can't get extra MND anywhere else.

PIE is pretty much worthless because Ballad exists and SCH already has high MP regeneration capabilities.

MND is your primary stat. Purposefully gimping your heals, shields, and dps just because Lustrate isn't affected by MND only lowers your potential.

It simply boils down to this. Depending on your play style spec in what you want too.

Suck at dodging AoEs or having a hard time hitting Vit caps - Spec some into Vit
Having trouble with MP - Spec some into PIE
Don't have any of these problems or feel like your heals are just to low- Spec all into Mind

The reason people mostly spec all MND is because you can only get so much MND on your character where Vit and PIE(MP and MP restoration) can be gotten from other sources. It's that simple as long as you have good gear you could heal any content in the game with little trouble.

You are never locked into one spec you basically can respec whenever you want so experiment to find out what works best for you.

I see people here saying PIE is worthless, because we don't have MP issues. The reason you don't have MP issues are because you're using Energy Drain when your Aetherflow doesn't cut it; that stack would have otherwise been better spent on Lustrate or Sacred Soil.

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Originally Posted by Ashira

I see people here saying PIE is worthless, because we don't have MP issues. The reason you don't have MP issues are because you're using Energy Drain when your Aetherflow doesn't cut it; that stack would have otherwise been better spent on Lustrate or Sacred Soil.

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No..
For example in coil i generally don't energy drain. (Accuracy)
Still No mana issues.

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Originally Posted by Marcusow86

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LOL.. 20% extra healing and 50% extra healing from pet change my main heal from 1600 -> 2600. 30 mind 1600 -> 1650;

I see you have not done much more than turn 1, so why are you even weighing in when you clearly have not done much end game?

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Originally Posted by Staris

No..
For example in coil i generally don't energy drain. (Accuracy)
Still No mana issues.

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You're talking about Twintania right? You know, that 11-13 minute fight..

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Originally Posted by Noctrin

Fail, fail everywhere~

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Not sure how you come to conclusion that i am still T1 but hey~ whatever that floats your boat honey~

Btw, Rouse increase healing potency by 40% but only pet gets it. Fey Illumination increase healing potency by 20% to everyone. Not 50% and 20%, please at least get the figures right.

Your statements sounds like this.

1. I only uses Eos in selected part in Twintania fight cause i mainly rely on my lustrate and listrate does not depend on MND but let me just put in EoS buff in my arguments.
2. Extra 50 HP per heal will result in overheal, but let me pull in how my fairy can increase my healing potency so i can overheal more.
3. Let me shame everyone who dies due to not able to dodge AOEs or burn CDs as BAD and then advise someone to spec VIT so that they can be BAD at times and not die.
4. Let me ALSO assume that this thread is not talking about ilvl90 end game SCH and when my HP cap comfortably beyond the threshold needed to win even twintania, i NEED MORE cause i wanna QQ laugh at those that have lesser HP than mine but in the end we still survive the same unavoidable AOE damage.....unless well, i am BAD and lazy and do not wanna avoid AOE and/or that i am an amateur and i don't know where to dodge that bomb.

I am end game healer and i need MORE VIT, F**K the rest, i ain't gonna heal you more!!