Crystal Tower: Do we really have to wait 6 months just to enter the actual tower?

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12-25-2013, 03:07 AM
ApolloGenX

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Originally Posted by Kezy_Kaatapoh

CT was never meant to allow you into the actual tower at the beginning. Yes, they said it was supposed to be in release, but they also said it was going to be released as installments, just like Coil.

Also, you're arguing semantics. The Labyrinth of the Ancients was just as important in FFIII and just as much a part of the final dungeon as the Crystal Tower itself. The fact that you aren't in the ACTUAL tower is pretty irrelevant, and you're complaints stem from your own expectations and not the facts given by the devs. They are not to fault for your (and others') dissatisfaction.

So... they said it was supposed to be in at release... it wasn't. But the issues customers have is their own fault because their expectations were different from the facts stated by devs?

Please tell me that you are in no way affiliated with product messaging or customer service. I like the game, too... but this seems more than a bit over the top. The fact that you aren't in the ACTUAL tower might be irrelevant to you.

Besides, the marketing I have seen so far is for the Crystal Tower... not just LotA. Maybe the marketing could have been clearer.... kind of like the messaging with FC housing...player housing.. chocobo raising... and other features they marketed to people that have either not materialized, or have been implemented in a very restrictive way. Maybe that should be blamed on customers, too. Blaming customers is a really great way to deal with things.

In any case... I still believe these things will make it into the game... I just don't think the marketed timeline is realistic... so I will cancel and come back when all this neat stuff is in the game, playable, and not restricted. Then I can enjoy the features, enjoy the full game, and they will have other stuff to look forward to!

I think it is important to remember this community has several elements. There are players here that liked or were willing to sub through 1.0 in the hopes things would get better... while there are players that either did not see 1.0 or canceled after playing it. There is a huge variance in tolerance among players in the current community. -And that's okay!
12-25-2013, 03:52 AM
Amocoru

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Originally Posted by LoLo

I am not saying there is not enough content overall in the 2.1 update.

I'll say it then. There isn't enough meaningful content in the 2.1 update. It's all BS filler content to try and tide us over.
12-25-2013, 03:55 AM
Tupsi

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Originally Posted by Kezy_Kaatapoh

CT was never meant to allow you into the actual tower at the beginning.

Crystal Tower was never meant to allow you into the actual Crystal Tower at the beginning? Ok, well you see: He stated we'd have a four man dungeon prior to entering the Crystal Tower and The Crystal Tower would be a 24 man raid, not the labyrinth of ancients - So no one is really arguing semantics, in their choice to delay the content..they changed everything. Labyrinth of the Ancients is still obviously designed as a small dungeon (in scope) to be done before the meat of the content but they re-provisioned it.

So ms. Kezy, we were given facts - They simply changed by implementation.
12-25-2013, 04:00 AM
McStagger

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

I'm sorry...what was requested which you may not know judging by your join date:

-Titan
-Leviathan
-More Primals, i.e Garuda (Got), Shiva, Ramuh, Diabolos, Carbuncle, Fenrir, Kjata and so on, basically more FF summon fights.
-Better Relic Quest, if you even played 1.x you'd realize a lot of people didn't even attempt Relic or stopped after seals.
-More content in general.

And no, you weren't being sarcastic.

You are clearly not the keeper of all player requests as I have seen numerous people in and out of game talk about wanting hardermode versions of the current primals. And with 2.1 they did that and fulfilled more requests. Not all mind you, because that would be impossible, but they did a lot.
12-25-2013, 04:06 AM
LoLo

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Originally Posted by Amocoru

I'll say it then. There isn't enough meaningful content in the 2.1 update. It's all BS filler content to try and tide us over.

you know if I didn't put that disclaimer in that I would be hung alive, right? People claiming I breeze through content but they never took the chance to look me up on the lodestone.
12-25-2013, 04:10 AM
LoLo

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Originally Posted by Kezy_Kaatapoh

Also, you're arguing semantics. The Labyrinth of the Ancients was just as important in FFIII and just as much a part of the final dungeon as the Crystal Tower itself. The fact that you aren't in the ACTUAL tower is pretty irrelevant, and you're complaints stem from your own expectations and not the facts given by the devs. They are not to fault for your (and others') dissatisfaction.

First, I LOVE FFIII. It is my second favorite Final Fantasy. I am, as are other people, aware of the fact that you have to travel through the Maze before you can get into the Crystal Tower. So then why would SE and Yoshi P tell us they have put Crystal Tower in 2.1 when they really haven't. Most people that love the Final Fantasy series play this game. They picked a poor choice of words because I was expecting the actual Crystal Tower after I completed the Maze.
12-25-2013, 04:31 AM
Worm

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Originally Posted by LoLo

You are right. You are assuming that everyone who plays is happy with the Crystal Tower content, yet you have not taken the time to ask everyone. I should have ignored you based off that.

I cannot believe a thread by someone making posts like this is still standing. I said I think most people don't care, you think most people do care, have you taken the time to ask all the players?
12-25-2013, 04:35 AM
Holyhunter

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Originally Posted by LoLo

So then why would SE and Yoshi P tell us they have put Crystal Tower in 2.1 when they really haven't.

Because the title of the raid is The Crystal Tower: Labyrinth of the Ancients. The Labyrinth itself is a part of the series of raids that amount to the entirety of the Crystal Tower. At this point you aren't even arguing that there should have been more content but that the Labyrinth should have been moved a whole 50 feet so that it was the first floor of the Crystal Tower.
12-25-2013, 05:14 AM
Kallera

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Originally Posted by Holyhunter

Because the title of the raid is The Crystal Tower: Labyrinth of the Ancients. The Labyrinth itself is a part of the series of raids that amount to the entirety of the Crystal Tower. At this point you aren't even arguing that there should have been more content but that the Labyrinth should have been moved a whole 50 feet so that it was the first floor of the Crystal Tower.

The crystal tower was advertised as the Crystal Tower, not Crystal Tower: Labyrinth That Is Some Distance Away From The Crystal Tower. It has pictures of multiple bosses planned that we're upcoming. It was hyped as climbing the tower even in one of the blogs.

We haven't entered the crystal tower yet as of 2.1. Those pictures of Amon and crew? Likely years away from being in the game. Are you willing to wait that long?

Because it's looking like it will be one dungeon length raid every 6 months. With looting rules it's only means of longevity that make it more than the average df romp.
12-25-2013, 05:20 AM
Bambam

I just wanna request that if they do plan on plugging in a line of quests between the Labyrinth and the Crystal Tower, to not include quests that requires you to camp FATEs for hours. >_>

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