FFXIV: The 1 Job at 50 Monday night raiding 8 man FC game.

More content is coming, seriously what do you want them to do? Without any sort of lock out it would be even worse. They could shut down the game for another year so NO ONE can play and then release with more content, or people could practice PATIENCE....

You say you are from 1.0 (I listen to your podcast) then you should understand patience. You should also know there is much more coming and be aware that this is not the full vision this dev team has for the game. How about we wait a little bit and see what develops or go and entertain yourself elsewhere until its "up to your standards".

EDIT: More things you should already know. Lockouts, will/are change/ing. Alliance parties are coming. More systems are being developed. more types of content are on the way. Dude.. I got quite a bit of my info from your podcast and I'm not worried.

PS: I'm not White Knighting I just dont see the point to this kind of over-reacting panic.... At this point its like telling me I'm fat. I'm fully aware, thanks for noticing....

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Originally Posted by Risae

Practice... PATIENCE? Man... these people are something else.

This game may be doomed... again.

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You are on the same server as me. I can log in at almost any time of day, any day of the week, and be in any zone and its pretty busy. People crafting, shouting for FATE groups, shouting for parties, shouting for free companies. It doesnt look like a "dying game" to me.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

What's fun for you, isn't what's fun for everyone else.

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You hit the nail on the head! Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Starlord

I can understand those people that want the best of the best. , … words

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Was just stating that I don't think lockouts will be any less harsh than what they are now. Fine by me I still get more playtime out of my $15 a month than most $60 games I buy.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

If by working you mean alienating any FC with more than 8 people … words

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All other MMOs get you only the chance to level and gear on class per character. 2 classes on the best gear is still more than the rest. Also, if there is only one run a week for coils (say the dungeon that actually needs gear) why would you want 3+ classes on myth/coils? You can have the rest on DL/crafted and still be able to dominate the rest of the content including CT.

If people feel alienated because they can't do coils more than once a week I wonder how they can be happy with all the other MMOs that do this. You can still help out friends with titan, and upcoming CT, EM primals, PvP

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

They can do a better job with the system.

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Of course they can, but do you really think Square will actually read your suggestion? The fact that they think it was a good idea to implement a lockout to coil AND Tower makes me kinda lose hope in this company.

Jesus, Square, how many times do the players have to tell you how to create a good Videogame?

Not to mention that you won't be able to apply for a Tower DF group with more than 8 people...

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Originally Posted by juliord

Was just stating that I don't think lockouts will be any less harsh than what they are now. Fine by me I still get more playtime out of my $15 a month than most $60 games I buy.



All other MMOs get you only the chance to level and gear on class per character. 2 classes on the best gear is still more than the rest. Also, if there is only one run a week for coils (say the dungeon that actually needs gear) why would you want 3+ classes on myth/coils? You can have the rest on DL/crafted and still be able to dominate the rest of the content including CT.

If people feel alienated because they can't do coils more than once a week I wonder how they can be happy with all the other MMOs that do this. You can still help out friends with titan, and upcoming CT, EM primals, PvP

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With all other MMO's you play 1 class.
Herein lies the difference you are forgetting.

A game that promotes that you can play all classes should have a loot system that matches.

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Originally Posted by MageBlack

They could shut down the game for another year so NO ONE can play and then release with more content, or people could practice PATIENCE....

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Practice... PATIENCE? Man... these people are something else.

This game may be doomed... again.

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Originally Posted by Joygasm

If there were no lockouts, content wouldn't be burned thru just as fast. It would extend the content for people who want to play more than a single night Coils.

We already complain now, so people that say "we'll complain anyway" - that isn't a suitable argument. I'm excited to do the extreme primals and Crystal Tower (I guess..) but I can see both and Coils being finished in a few hours after it's "farmed".

I white knighted the **** out of this game before it came out. I'm just let down feeling like I have a wonderful game, with WoW raiding structure that the class system isn't suited for, and it's annoying, sickening. I quit WoW for a reason.

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I mean... no... I don't agree with you at all. Your arguing for the short term over the long term. If the Coil didn't have a lock out, then yeah sure.... you would of course play more.... for a week. You would spam T1 over and over and over until you got the pieces you needed. Rinse repeat for T2. T4. Ect. You would do it enough to get yourself and your FC all the gear you wanted and then you would be done, with nothing to do. That is the truth of the matter. Changing the lockout doesn't change the content, it just speeds it up and the more FC members you gear up completely the less they log in anyway. Same results really just more of a cliff than a gradual slope that we have now.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

If by working you mean alienating any FC with more than 8 people, and the inability to gear more than 2 roles in a game that allows you to level 9.

Then yeah, it's working.

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I don't feel alienated in FCs. Yes, static groups are currently the norm for Coil, but my FC is made up of people that like to game with me, not just that run coil. If you can't have a FC that sticks it out together because you all like playing, then really they are just playing for Gear anyway and do you really want that kind of person in a FC?

And it IS possible to gear more than one job, even in coil if you are gaming with selfless people. When something drops and no one needs it, you should be good to get that piece. I have more gear than just Monk gear from coil because I have been running with mostly the same group since we started doing Coil. CT will make it even better with i80 gear. Yes it will only be one piece a week, but its there. You can run CT as many times as you want to get that one piece you are looking for. That is how I plan on doing it on MNK. Going again and again to replace those last few pieces of DL until I can get BIS gear.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

... If you can't have a FC that sticks it out together because you all like playing, then really they are just playing for Gear anyway and do you really want that kind of person in a FC?
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What's fun for you, isn't what's fun for everyone else.

I enjoy defeating difficult content with friends and the reward of gear that comes from it.

Yes, I would love more people like that in my FC.

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Originally Posted by Risae

Practice... PATIENCE? Man... these people are something else.

This game may be doomed... again.

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Opinioooooooon opinion opinion opinion!!


Do you ever have anything positive to say here???

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

With all other MMO's you play 1 class.
Herein lies the difference you are forgetting.

A game that promotes that you can play all classes should have a loot system that matches.

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But also you are forgetting that its completely viable to have 2 classes on the best gear in a little more than 4 months into the game, and then you can have DL/crafted gear on the rest. Gear that is completely viable for doing all of the content outside coils. So actually yes it is very much possible to have more classes that you can play with on one character. Not to mention crafting but that actually sucks and is pointless in this game. So besides one dungeon that you can't play more than once a week why do you need ilvl90 on 9 classes on the first 4 months of the game?

And with PvP coming that will give you the chance to play more classes and have different sets of gear for them…

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

What's fun for you, isn't what's fun for everyone else.

I enjoy defeating difficult content with friends and the reward of gear that comes from it.

Yes, I would love more people like that in my FC.

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So what are you looking for? A company that caters to only your play style? Good luck with that search.