DL gear

Only reason why people say DL is because it gives some boost to stats to allow you to clear things faster. It's mainly used in SR instances, but this game is so easy that you can complete most of it except Titan and BCoB with AF + a primal weapon. Just helps to have DL since the extra stats, whether its vit or def is pretty nice on a tank.

You don't even need full DL for Ifrit and Garuda, let alone any of the level 50 dungeons (yes, including WP and AK)... >_>

I know CM gets old and frustrating, trust me, I went there so many times I lost count, and the cutscenes made me crazy, I wished I could shoot the screen every time I had to skip another damn cutscene.

That said...

It's best if you get at least a few DL pieces before you try anything else, so do CM a bunch of times.

Then when you have at least body, head and a few accessories, spam Ifrit HM till you get your primal weapon.


Right there you're good to at least not be yelled at AK, so spam AK, loot some AK gear while you're at it. Get philos, get Myth in the process, complete your DL, and go get relic.


Or you could stay here and complain

lmao DL is freakn ilvl70, every dungeon that's been named in here is ilvl50-60. People saying DL is more efficient well freakn duh youre highly overgeared for the instance, every single one of those are for gearing your damn fresh 50s character be it for the gear in there or tomes, the only person that can possibly be wrong is anyone that thinks you "need" any DL for anything outside of titan & coil. You don't need it, it's just what players attempt to enforce to get "maximum effeciency" to hoard their precious tomes.

This forum, I swear you guys give me a good laugh every time I come here.

As previously mentioned, skill almost always trumps gear - I used an HQ pre-relic all the way up to Titan, and I've never been in last in DPS (except when the rest of my group had relics and relic +1s, but they knew what they were doing too). As a matter of fact, I even managed to out-DPS a relic BLM who had 3 pieces of DL (I had/have 4). I'm not going to pass any judgment on that BLM in terms of how he/she got that relic (because I would most likely be wrong), but the fact still stands that DL/relics mean absolutely nothing if you don't have the skill to play your class.

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Absolutely, but sadly I haven't seen many players that are amazing regardless of gear. I see more of them using gear as a crutch, which makes gear that much more important. Without it, they would be THAT much worse. Sadly that's what I've experienced thus far.