Final Fantasy XIV and a Culture of Enabling

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Originally Posted by Lanadra

I mean, as some of us, plenty of us, have told you numerous times, the notion of 'they're everywhere' comes of as the bizarre strawman to us. Especially to those of us who use DF constantly and do. not. see. it.

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I think that the issue is being very, very exaggerated, but I would be foolish to say that it never happens, because it does.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I think that the issue is being very, very exaggerated, but I would be foolish to say that it never happens, because it does.

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What leads me to disagree with it being exaggerated is not only my own personal experience but also the many threads that have been made regarding this topic. Not only that but also the fact there is an entire subreddit dedicated to it.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

What leads me to disagree with it being exaggerated is not only my own personal experience but also the many threads that have been made regarding this topic. Not only that but also the fact there is an entire subreddit dedicated to it.

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OH it's exaggerated. I have very little problems in DF and I play on multiple data centers with various alts.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

OH it's exaggerated. I have very little problems in DF and I play on multiple data centers with various alts.

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But there is a WHOLE subreddit, Layla! A SUBREDDIT!

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Originally Posted by hobostew

But there is a WHOLE subreddit, Layla! A SUBREDDIT!

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Yeah that makes it official. Sorry they have to be playing a different game than me. I'm one of those crazy people who plays more content than most and I don't see it sorry.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Yeah that makes it official. Sorry they have to be playing a different game than me. I'm one of those crazy people who plays more content than most and I don't see it sorry.

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I mean i see it at least every other day but everyone’s different i suppose. I just don’t think it’s as exaggerated as some people may be trying to lead others to believe. Granted i’m on the “bad” dc (crystal)I gave the subreddit as an example though just because of the quantity that there is there. Dunno why there’s sarcasm regarding that :p

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

I mean i see it at least every other day but everyone’s different i suppose.

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Oh you see it. Oh I don't doubt you one bit. You see a lot of things. You also post in here multiple times a day trying to push your agenda. Sorry but I don't see it and I don't buy it.

Generally speaking, people often use themselves as the benchmark for their own standards in a simple bid to preserve their ego.

If someone isn't very good, more often than not they will have standards matching their own skill-level, and have difficulty seeing this problem as they are looking from the inside out.

My own stint on EU was nightmare inducing; Wipes to the final boss of Heroes Gauntlet were almost a daily occurrence, typically instigated by someone with the French language tag on ._.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

I mean i see it at least every other day but everyone’s different i suppose. I just don’t think it’s as exaggerated as some people may be trying to lead others to believe. Granted i’m on the “bad” dc (crystal)I gave the subreddit as an example though just because of the quantity that there is there. Dunno why there’s sarcasm regarding that :p

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I'm on the Mos Eisley of Data Centers - Crystal - as well, and I don't see it. Very rarely I'll run into someone that is pretty bad, but it's super rare. I'm not a super fantastic player myself, I'm competent, but I make mistakes. Perhaps it's the bad sticks out more than the multiple runs that had no issues that make it feel so prevalent.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

My own stint on EU was nightmare inducing; Wipes to the final boss of Heroes Gauntlet were almost a daily occurrence, typically instigated by someone with the French language tag on ._.

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I play on Chaos and on Light and I don't see it. That's not to say there aren't problems with maybe new content with people learning mechanics. I know Crystal used to be the butt of many jokes that all the good players left and went to Aether but I play on Crystal too and things there go just fine. I rarely see an abandon and wipes are fairly infrequent.

That's not to say there aren't differences in data centers because i'm sure there are. One example I might use was that my BA clear on Crystal took a lot more effort than my clears on Aether but for the most part people there are equally competent but the numbers of people playing some content are less.