Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

Well I don't know what else to tell you. Study it all night if you need too. Everything in my ACT is standard except for the 45 second timer. That parse was imported from history I didnt have it handy. The only thing I can think of is that LB 3 was used at the very end of the encounter, may have not picked it up, which is about 30k damage. That may also explain why Limit Break only did 3k damage.

Do you guys do anything in particular to keep DPS high in the second half of the rotation? I find that in the first 20-odd seconds I parse well over 700 on dummies, and then it slowly falls to about 540 over the next 30 seconds until I can pop a buffed Full Thrust again when the rotation restarts.

I hope we get more off-GCD stuff in 3.0, there's not enough happening inbetween moves for a significant part of the rotation.

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Originally Posted by DumpTruck

Thank you. I am trying to figure out what gear and melds (if crafted) I should be aiming for. Seems like, in general terms, I should go for the BIS Augmented Ironworks gear first and use crafted gear in the other slots until I get Dreadwyrm pieces.

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My personal philosophy on BiS has always been to ignore BiS and shun crafted gear (I'm poor). I always try to purchase the tomestone gear that'll give me the most DPS per tome, using whatever other gear I have. This isn't the best way to go at all (especially when 2.4 dropped, because High Allagan and Astrum stuff had way too much skill speed), but at least it's gil-friendly.

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Originally Posted by DumpTruck

I read a lot of builds with the crafted boots over the augmented ironworks ones. I am wondering why as those boots have such good stats.

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Accuracy requirements is why we don't just pick the gear piece that does the most damage for the slot and call it a day; puzzling conclusions can be achieved! That said, I wouldn't trust those at the moment. The playerbase has been working off faulty stat weights for many moons now; what I just told you is experimentation I just did. So, nobody's had a chance to test/refute it nor revise what BiS would look like with crafted gear. Maybe it kicks pentamelds down a notch. Maybe up.

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Originally Posted by seekified

Do you guys do anything in particular to keep DPS high in the second half of the rotation? I find that in the first 20-odd seconds I parse well over 700 on dummies, and then it slowly falls to about 540 over the next 30 seconds until I can pop a buffed Full Thrust again when the rotation restarts.

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This is the famed DRG burst. We never catch up to it again. Other jobs have burst like this too, but not quite this far above the norm for 20 seconds.

And DRG cooldowns used to not be aligned so well. They changed it because our DPS was too low. Now everything is really aligned, but it is a little more boring too.

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Originally Posted by SunnyHirose

This is the famed DRG burst. We never catch up to it again. Other jobs have burst like this too, but not quite this far above the norm for 20 seconds.

And DRG cooldowns used to not be aligned so well. They changed it because our DPS was too low. Now everything is really aligned, but it is a little more boring too.

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Indeed, I was just wondering if there's a magic trick to these crazy parses I see other than doing a good job with adds and maniacally popping off-GCD moves when they're up. ;-) I do like the reduced cooldown on Spineshatter Dive, but I wish they'd do a similar change on DFD. 180 seconds is quite long for what for many fights is just a Full Thrust with movement.

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Originally Posted by seekified

I hope we get more off-GCD stuff in 3.0, there's not enough happening inbetween moves for a significant part of the rotation.

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I genuinely don't know how you've come to this conclusion.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

I genuinely don't know how you've come to this conclusion.

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Heh, I just like having stuff to do all the time. Having played DRG for a very long time now, I honestly get bored when I have to wait a full 2.5 seconds to do my next thing. It feels slow compared to the first 20 seconds when I'm popping everything I've got, is all.

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Originally Posted by enil

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Yea, this. Could you provide the left ACT window of that encounter ?

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Originally Posted by Hakmatic

Well I don't know what else to tell you. Study it all night if you need too. Everything in my ACT is standard except for the 45 second timer. That parse was imported from history I didnt have it handy. The only thing I can think of is that LB 3 was used at the very end of the encounter, may have not picked it up, which is about 30k damage. That may also explain why Limit Break only did 3k damage.

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I can believe your number, especially because no one else is inflated in the slightest so I doubt it's a merged parse (45s is longer than any downtime possible). That said it does seem very high without being fed adds to attack and sustain GL3 ... what exactly do you do in add phase? I would imagine any outlier number from other MNKs who are extremely competent would lie there rather than some super crazy good CD management or somehow a rotation difference when attacking Bahamut itself, even if assuming no Earthshakers.

Pop perfect balance on first set of gusts spam rock breaker, PB then comes up soon as bahamuat drops in the last phase. Thats about the only thing I can think of that differs for other players. I do that to ensure I have GL 3 going into last phase. Other than that its just your basic stuff. Also thank you for knowing that it is a kill and unmerged.

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Originally Posted by OneWingedSora

Yea, this. Could you provide the left ACT window of that encounter ?

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If you cant look at it and tell its unmerged and a 1 shot then thats too bad. Im not going continue posting pics so I can be talked shit too. I didnt post that parse for any other reason other than someone said I doubt you did that.