"In from the Cold" Scenario, any way to skip it?

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

They nerfed it it's really very easy not of you play on Very Easy after dying.

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That's a shame to learn. I did it during early access and cleared it first attempt (despite thinking for a moment I failed it toward the end).

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Originally Posted by LeonKeyh

It's not that serious...

There's a limit number of places that you can actually go and on Very Easy you can get into a decent number of fights without needing to worry about dying. The red dots blocking stuff off is specifically to make sure you're not wandering around places where you don't need to.

The quest was VERY important for the story, very important in making you realize just how strong your character is compared to normal people, very important in making you feel helpless. You're feeling what you're supposed to be feeling as the WoL during this quest. You're also just taking it way too seriously. You have plenty of time, the stuff is easy enough to find but if you can't find it people have posted where to find everything.

I had to do it twice because I wasn't paying attention and lost the QTE the first time I completed it and tried to rush through the second time and that was a big mistake. Just take your time, and a chill pill.

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That is neither here nor there. I should not have to go looking at guides for pinpoint locations. I get this idea on hunts. You don't know where they are other than a zone. Fine. It's a HUNT. I get it.

No, this is a complete divergence of the gameplay I expect. I don't like stealth games. I don't like forced bodysnatcher crap. I don't like that the order in which you must do things is completely unknown but absolutely vital. I read the description. I knew I could not tangle with a bot so I spent most of the mission backtracking where I'd already been in order to remember what I'd seen previously and where it was. I spent 4 minutes looking for the !@#$ pilot because lo and behold...I apparently cannot tell the direction a NOISE CAME FROM. When I found it, I was angered to the point of not giving a damn.

Finally getting everything assembled and in the bot...only to find out that you can't move. You can't do anything other than "clear a path". With what, my amazingly long ****? What path? What area? It's all bordered. Am I supposed to shoot things? Seems like it was all I could do, but what do I shoot? If you want to make me feel powerless, blind my character and make me walk on a rope over a pit full of spikes. Same difference to me. At least I know what I'm supposed to do. In this, no. Stupid quest. Stupid design. Stupid everything.

No, these kinds of grab-ass randomness quests irk me. I don't care to know what it's like outside of the WoL's body. I don't play that character. I don't give a crap.

I didn't think this instance had such a negative reception...I guess that's why we have a formula and recycle content

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Originally Posted by zcrash970

I didn't think this instance had such a negative reception...I guess that's why we have a formula and recycle content

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It's only negative to the small minority that come to the forums to complain because something was a bit challenging on their way to level 90

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Originally Posted by zcrash970

I didn't think this instance had such a negative reception...I guess that's why we have a formula and recycle content

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Gotta cater to EVERYONE. There is EX/Ult/Unreal fights but pre nerf In From the Cold felt like I actually had to pay attention in non 8 man content. I hate how this will ensure we won't get any single player content that requires you to pay attention again. At least there is still the Blu trials but they seem more like puzzle fights.

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Gotta cater to EVERYONE. There is EX/Ult/Unreal fights but pre nerf In From the Cold felt like I actually had to pay attention in non 8 man content. I hate how this will ensure we won't get any single player content that requires you to pay attention again. At least there is still the Blu trials but they seem more like puzzle fights.

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Unless I missed something I thought their solution was to only change the easy difficulty? Doesn't this just mean SE is encouraged to take advantage of their own system more? Lots of games end up doing this. Death Stranding for example added extra prompts in a lot of places to ensure that those players who wanted the super casual experience got it.

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Originally Posted by joshuacrime

That is neither here nor there. I should not have to go looking at guides for pinpoint locations. I get this idea on hunts. You don't know where they are other than a zone. Fine. It's a HUNT. I get it.

No, this is a complete divergence of the gameplay I expect. I don't like stealth games. I don't like forced bodysnatcher crap. I don't like that the order in which you must do things is completely unknown but absolutely vital. I read the description. I knew I could not tangle with a bot so I spent most of the mission backtracking where I'd already been in order to remember what I'd seen previously and where it was. I spent 4 minutes looking for the !@#$ pilot because lo and behold...I apparently cannot tell the direction a NOISE CAME FROM. When I found it, I was angered to the point of not giving a damn.

Finally getting everything assembled and in the bot...only to find out that you can't move. You can't do anything other than "clear a path". With what, my amazingly long ****? What path? What area? It's all bordered. Am I supposed to shoot things? Seems like it was all I could do, but what do I shoot? If you want to make me feel powerless, blind my character and make me walk on a rope over a pit full of spikes. Same difference to me. At least I know what I'm supposed to do. In this, no. Stupid quest. Stupid design. Stupid everything.

No, these kinds of grab-ass randomness quests irk me. I don't care to know what it's like outside of the WoL's body. I don't play that character. I don't give a crap.

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I can understand being upset about not being able to grab the fuel immediately. It wouldn't take much effort to have the Warrior of Light internally muse on the idea of using Magitek to escape if you got there first.

But the rest is heavily conveyed. The leg of the Magitek is sparking. The device tells you its leg is damaged when you examine it and can't move. I believe it is even called damaged Magitek Reaper. The pilot might have also said something about it. And because you can't move, you're pointed directly at the mobs the quest expects you to kill to clear a path forward, with everything after being a straight line.

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Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain

I can understand being upset about not being able to grab the fuel immediately. It wouldn't take much effort to have the Warrior of Light internally muse on the idea of using Magitek to escape if you got there first.

But the rest is heavily conveyed. The leg of the Magitek is sparking. The device tells you its leg is damaged when you examine it and can't move. I believe it is even called damaged Magitek Reaper. The pilot might have also said something about it. And because you can't move, you're pointed directly at the mobs the quest expects you to kill to clear a path forward, with everything after being a straight line.

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Dont bother , these types dont care ., If its not a glowey purple circle or click "destination" to spawn easy npcs to kill its all unacceptable . Any mission design deviation in the future expansions is probably going to get a repeated many times early on in msqs just to get their types used to it before throwing in any kind of challenge in future expansions at key MSQ moments .


Just look at the hissy fits they are throwing across the various posts about the same quest . Shouting at us "crap" "i dont care" , "my time only matters" , "i dont care what you think" "you dont pay my sub" whilst were stunned at the level of arrogance and entitlement

I feel bad for the quest designers , they actually made a great tense moment which worked really well with what had just happened ,and yet after all of our praise its gotten too , I hope they dont "fear" to upset these megaphone shouting vocal minority for "fear" of nonsensical backlash here or on twitter.

For me, I was little nervous about the time limit, that why I missed some text and I did make it through.

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Originally Posted by joshuacrime

That is neither here nor there. I should not have to go looking at guides for pinpoint locations. I get this idea on hunts. You don't know where they are other than a zone. Fine. It's a HUNT. I get it.

No, this is a complete divergence of the gameplay I expect. I don't like stealth games. I don't like forced bodysnatcher crap. I don't like that the order in which you must do things is completely unknown but absolutely vital. I read the description. I knew I could not tangle with a bot so I spent most of the mission backtracking where I'd already been in order to remember what I'd seen previously and where it was. I spent 4 minutes looking for the !@#$ pilot because lo and behold...I apparently cannot tell the direction a NOISE CAME FROM. When I found it, I was angered to the point of not giving a damn.

Finally getting everything assembled and in the bot...only to find out that you can't move. You can't do anything other than "clear a path". With what, my amazingly long ****? What path? What area? It's all bordered. Am I supposed to shoot things? Seems like it was all I could do, but what do I shoot? If you want to make me feel powerless, blind my character and make me walk on a rope over a pit full of spikes. Same difference to me. At least I know what I'm supposed to do. In this, no. Stupid quest. Stupid design. Stupid everything.

No, these kinds of grab-ass randomness quests irk me. I don't care to know what it's like outside of the WoL's body. I don't play that character. I don't give a crap.

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