Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

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Originally Posted by javid

YOure talking "plenary indulgence"!!

Finally a skill that is true to a WHM/ pure healer!! Current system's 30 recast ogcd INDOM at 400 potency was shitting on us WHM's. NOW we get a real oGCD aoe with a 15 sec recast!!!! and varying potency(400, 500, 600) with a 30 radius. 30 radius is the largest radius in game so there isn't an issue at all with being centered. If your 25 yalm medica2 hits everyone.... your 30 yalm PI will LULz it way to the very edges of the arena!!!


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We can't know if we're suppose to be disappointed or satisfied just yet.............WE NEED to see these utilities in CONTENT..... Content will make or break us (make or break any job for that matter.)

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The wording strongly suggests that your potential targets need to have Confession stacks to consume in order for the skill to work at all, which means that you need to have thrown out enough single-target Cures in a short time span to proc 1+ stacks on anyone you might want to heal with your subsequent Plenary Indulgence. This is sounding more than a little wonky.

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Originally Posted by javid

YOure talking "plenary indulgence"!!

Finally a skill that is true to a WHM/ pure healer!! Current system's 30 recast ogcd INDOM at 400 potency was shitting on us WHM's. NOW we get a real oGCD aoe with a 15 sec recast!!!! and varying potency(400, 500, 600) with a 30 radius. 30 radius is the largest radius in game so there isn't an issue at all with being centered. If your 25 yalm medica2 hits everyone.... your 30 yalm PI will LULz it way to the very edges of the arena!!!


Another note:
We can't know if we're suppose to be disappointed or satisfied just yet.............WE NEED to see these utilities in CONTENT..... Content will make or break us (make or break any job for that matter.)

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Dude... it heals no one if they don't have stacks of confessions which they earn only by being healed with a cure I or cure II at 20% chance and it lasts for 30 seconds.

I hear the tank forums need a troll, why not go looking over there?

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Originally Posted by Opario

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Good spot, the tooltips don't show that yet =(

@Reiryuu,
If anything you should be blaming me, not Javid, I was the one that spread the misinformation in the first place.


Sorry to get you hyped Javid,

but yeah upon further reading, Cynfael is probably correct, I have also amended my previous post.

Man I just want SOMETHING to like about WHM.....Guess PoM + Thin Air + Holy..... I guess.

They really want us to cast Cure I and Cure II like no tomorrow huh....

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Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

What the hell happened? SE used to be so good at balancing this stuff, bit WHM is so underwhelming it's laughable.

It's like they don't care anymore.

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Part of it just tells me they've given up. I've already discussed with my raid team that I'll switching to SCH and my co healer will be going AST because we believe that our team will benefit more from the utility more than from the healing. Now if I had it my way completely I would just main Samurai, but my team still needs a healer so I'm going to roll with it for now. We'll still level up WHM just in case, but I don't see us ever needing to use it.

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Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

@Reiryuu,
If anything you should be blaming me, not Javid, I was the one that spread the misinformation in the first place.


Sorry to get you hyped Javid,

but yeah upon further reading, Cynfael is probably correct, I have also amended my previous post.

Man I just want SOMETHING to like about WHM.....Guess PoM + Thin Air + Holy..... I guess.

They really want us to cast Cure I and Cure II like no tomorrow huh....

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Nah, they want people to stop playing WHM and play AST/SCH instead. Good thing I have both leveled... wonder if I have to refrain from even leveling whm to effectively protest this crap.

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Originally Posted by ToasterMan

Part of it just tells me they've given up. I've already discussed with my raid team that I'll switching to SCH and my co healer will be going AST because we believe that our team will benefit more from the utility more than from the healing. Now if I had it my way completely I would just main Samurai, but my team still needs a healer so I'm going to roll with it for now. We'll still level up WHM just in case, but I don't see us ever needing to use it.

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Honestly, I think it's more they have no idea how we actually play jobs. For them, White Mage just healing is perfectly fine. It only needs to heal! Even if Astro utterly demolishes it now. Perhaps this will be the wake up call the devs need because White Mage usage will drop severely now. There's... just no reason to play it anymore. At least, not in progression content.

I'm not exactly sure what's happening here.
You wanted to boilster the "pure healer" identity you have going for them, but you took away EVERYTHING from us that was unique and from what I'm seeing, you gave them absolutely nothing in return. Actually from what I've seen, they have overall the least amount of spells than any other job in the game now.

And the new heals you gave us, while not only heavily gated around RNG both in the form of lilies AND confessions that can only be proced by our very basic heals, but they're so weak. AST and SCH have stronger heals... They have stronger shields. They have stronger utility.....

SE, please rethink this before June 16th, because this is going to kill one of the most iconic job in the FF series.

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Originally Posted by ToasterMan

Part of it just tells me they've given up. I've already discussed with my raid team that I'll switching to SCH and my co healer will be going AST because we believe that our team will benefit more from the utility more than from the healing. Now if I had it my way completely I would just main Samurai, but my team still needs a healer so I'm going to roll with it for now. We'll still level up WHM just in case, but I don't see us ever needing to use it.

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It doubt you could have it happen in large enough quantities but I wonder if it would be a wake up call if large numbers of people just didn't even take whm to 70. Probably wishful thinking but maybe their metrics would show something when they say "um he guys there are like no whms at 70." I doubt I'll even bother leveling it cause what's the point it's screwed anyway and anyone doing healer in content will need sch or ast.

Why do they keep making ast so good? Why do they get a ground based and more powerful assize?